still for sale be quick

[Kev R]

Still for sale

 

[shaunous]

The 2 big investigations recently by Landline and Sunday Night, both have proven we as a nation have no idea how much of our land and assets is foreign owned, as its never been recorded at sales. Which to me is just amazingly stupid.
There is now investigations into how much land and assets we do actually own, but it'll take a long time, and it'll surprise a lot of the people who think foreign investment is a great idea. I know many farms/stations which have been sold for overpriced dollars to foreign investors, including the farm next door to us. Its not just China buying the huge land masses, its Japan, USA, Canada, Indonesia and more.


This should probably go into the rant thread, though it is not a rant, more of a living future nightmare.

 

[madpierre06]

All prime primary production areas, how long till they simply drain the produce back home if it's not happening already. Mind you, given how much the US owes them there'll probably be a war instead to save paying back the bucks. Which means North Korea should be the catalyst.

 

[Liam_snorkel]

yeah but we're "open for business", remember.

 

[Dave70]

Bags Hobart.

 

[Liam_snorkel]

apparently you'll have to fend off the Chinese property investors (not joking).

 

[Dave70]

Then I'll settle for Bruny island and a few oyster leases. And the pub. Where I'll sell oysters au natural. To tourists. (Chinese)

 

[seamad]

yeah but we're "open for business", remember.

...well not all business'

 

[Liam_snorkel]

...well not all business'

related:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLAOhsMXLT8

 

[Lincoln2]

I'm no economist but from what I hear:

As the US$ sinks slowly but inexorably from being the most powerful currency of all time, replacements are needed. In the near future, the yuan, euro and US$ will make up the big 3, with the possibility of the ruble joining them, if they can ever get their **** together.

So, with the confusion of currencies, the best bet is commodities. Countries are buying land as the source of these commodities, being a tangible asset - unlike current currency systems that are not anchored to anything physical, such as gold.

It is a sign of the impending collapse of the world-wide financial systems and many elements of society. These people are not stupid. And let's face it, we live in a global society and notions of national sovereignty etc are slowly eroding.

I'm only slightly paranoid - but the good news is that as home-brewers we can either survive the meltdown and subsequent reset without going thirsty or die in a happy drunken stupor.

 

[Dave70]

I'm only slightly paranoid - but the good news is that as home-brewers we can either survive the meltdown and subsequent reset without going thirsty or die in a happy drunken stupor.

But what if they use all the barley and wheat to feed beef and dairy cattle?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-25/growing-trade-in-australian-farm-products-to-china/6343874




Anyway, Twain was on the money.

 

[madpierre06]

It is a sign of the impending collapse of the world-wide financial systems and many elements of society. These people are not stupid. And let's face it, we live in a global society and notions of national sovereignty etc are slowly eroding.

I'm only slightly paranoid - but the good news is that as home-brewers we can either survive the meltdown and subsequent reset without going thirsty or die in a happy drunken stupor.

We have a worldwide financial system based entirely on debt, society/community is already failing badly due to a sense of 'SELF' forced upon us, the family home (what is left of the family anyway) is one of these commodoties and the stresses placed upon famil;ies caused by this change in status along with the disintegration of the right of a bloke to be able to access a full time job and support his family is killing the foundation blocks of this country.....**** me if this does not elicit extreme rage within me. And the lemmings are too caught up in swallowing the crap the pollies feed us and wondering what Kim f***ing K is up to on twitter.

The good news is, within 10 years the whole joint (except for the ******* financiers at the top of the tree) is gonna be absolutely broke and WW III will be underway.

 

[seamad]

A good read from bob


Blowin’ In the Wind
Posted by Bob Ellis on July 12, 2015
(First published by Independent Australia)
As I write this, volcanic ash is preventing planes from leaving Bali, or going to Bali, and the tourist industry is being damaged.
Four years ago, an earthquake, tsunami and nuclear meltdown at Fukushima ruined every business in that region and endangered the entire Japanese economy, then the third largest in the world.
Ten years ago, an oil spill ruined the seaside businesses and swamped the economy of Louisiana, obliterating tourism there for three years. A month ago earthquakes ended, perhaps forever, the mountain-climbing tourist economy of Nepal.
Floods ruined provincial Queensland, fires provincial Victoria, in the past four years. Regions have been rebuilt, with massive government assistance, from the ground up. This has happened also in Christchurch, a museum city laid low by not just one, but successive earthquakes.
And yet we are told there is a ‘level playing field’ in a ‘global free market’ where ‘the market’ will make ‘all necessary adjustments’, in a spontaneous way, that will ensure the greatest possible happiness to the world population; and there is no alternative to this.
A moment’s thought will show that this is a fantasy. In eighty years Milton Friedman did not have that moment’s thought.
What is happening is what has happened through history: a state of war on frequent ‘events’ that disrupt a nation’s economy by governments ever more interventionist in a wild and difficult world.
American drones are bombing Pakistan and destroying the economies of mountain villages. Islamic State is beheading foreigners and damaging tourism in Syria. Egypt is hanging its President, and reducing the numbers of daily camel rides to the Pyramids.
And yet we are told there is something called ‘global free trade’, and the market will ‘adjust’ to, say, the next hundred years of air-bombing in Gaza.
It is surprising how many Labor people sign up to this nonsense. And believe, say, there should be no tariffs on anything. And by competing with the slaves of Bangla Desh we will win sufficient victories – exporting Akubra hats, or whatever – to save the day.
It is not like that. It is not how things are. We are at war, economically, not just with adjacent nation states but with storms and earthquakes and oil spills and beheading terrorists also. The ‘free market’ is not free, and it never was.
Tariffs worked for five thousand years, and in Japan and the US are working still. Government subsidized industries – like the Pentagon, and the BBC – still make huge amounts of money because the marketplace for them is taxpayer-fed.
I could write a book about this. But it would change no minds. They are so religiously stuck in a damn fool superstition – as dumb-assed as the belief in ‘leechcraft’ as a cure-all the Middle Ages – that argument is wearying.
Global free market economics exist on a planet without volcano ash, or bushfires, or earthquakes, or tsunamis. It exists on a clean, sunlit, windless planet without local wars or local slavery. Ergo, it does not exist.
It is a dead parrot. It is deceased. It has gone to its maker. It is no more.
It is a tale told by an *****, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
And the answer, my friend…?
Well take a look round you at the emergency services at work in snowdrift, shattered cities, ebola-stricken provinces. At air-sea rescue and the volunteers who in desolate African countries care for children with AIDS. Look at Save The Children. Look at UNESCO. That’s what we need. We need something like that.
It’s called government. It’s there to look after us. To repel our enemies when they come beating at the gate with cheap labour and cheap goods, wanting to take our world away.
It is government. It is we, the people.
And it’s time, and it’s time, and it’s time it were reasserted. In time of storm, vicissitude and earthquakes. And economic invasion.
Which is now.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

An even better read about Bob. :lol:
http://kevinbonham.blogspot.com.au/2013/08/bob-ellis-embarrassment-to-left.html

 

[Liam_snorkel]

relevance? or did you just read the title.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Relevance is whatever he writes is a one sided Marxist view, economic invasion, does Australia not do the same, or do we not invest in foreign countries.
We need foreign investment, we don't manufacture, our exports come from agriculture and natural resources.

 

[Liam_snorkel]

I feel sorry for Karl Marx, his vision hi-jacked by fascists and opportunists.

 

[TSMill]

I feel sorry for Karl Marx, his vision hi-jacked by fascists and opportunists.

Also for whatever reason he was never in any of the movies.

 

[shaunous]

We don't need foreign investment, if we as a nation cannot purchase the land or assets for a fair price, we should then look at long term leasing, not freehold selling it all to be gone forever.