It sounds like a very very nice beer, but it's not a Dunkel without some way of adding dark colour.
I did one a couple of years ago with all Munich I and about 2 or 3% Caraaroma. It was enough to give it a darker colour. Loved the maltiness of it, and although I had about 50 IBU of bittering, the malt still won out.
Would love to try something a bit darker/hoppier..
Marzen/Oktoberfest/Vienna.. are all these beers pretty much the same? I can't find any of them in the bottle-o's and know nothing about what theyr'e supposed to taste like..
So flying blind.
Any recipe ideas out there for kick arse lagers pale or dark?