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yaks

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Just brewed my second attempt at a red ale 9 days ago and still I seem to have problems getting a decent red hue from the beer. As follows:

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 44.53 l
Post Boil Volume: 42.64 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 40.00 l
Bottling Volume: 40.00 l
Estimated OG: 1.049 SG
Estimated Color: 31.8 EBC
Estimated IBU: 20.0 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 62.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 63.5 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
0.50 kg Carared (Weyermann) (47.3 EBC) Grain 3 5.0 %
0.10 kg Roasted Barley (Joe White) (1398.7 EBC) Grain 5 1.0 %
7.00 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 1 69.3 %
20.00 g Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] - Boil 20.0 Hop 7 3.9 IBUs
10.00 g Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] - Boil 0.0 Hop 8 0.0 IBUs
22.00 g Northern Brewer [11.40 %] - Boil 60.0 mi Hop 6 16.1 IBUs
2.00 kg Munich, Light (Joe White) (17.7 EBC) Grain 2 19.8 %
0.50 kg Crystal (Joe White) (141.8 EBC) Grain 4 5.0 %
1.0 pkg SafAle English Ale (DCL/Fermentis #S-04) Yeast 9 -
Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Full Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 10.10 kg
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Name Description Step Temperature Step Time
Mash In Add 26.34 l of water at 76.8 C 68.9 C 45 min

Any suggestions? this was a slight modification of one of the more popular red ales in the database.

Steve.
 

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I find it that if you give it some time for the beer to clear out the redness will come through a lot more.
 

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And you could probably up the carared up to about 700-800g in a 40L batch.
 

Rowy

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Caraaroma will give you more of a red colour than carared.
 

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exactement - I don't know why it's called red, its just not. Caraaroma will give you the full Julia Gillard effect.

And don't use half a kilo, 300g will do fine.

 

Rowy

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Does the full Juliar treatment mean that the beer will be a useless f#$king excuse for a beer.
 

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I tell you what Bribie, if my Red looks half as good as that one I'll be a very happy camper.
 

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Thanks guys, pity, I had some caraaroma lying around, maybe next time. Hopefully it looks a bit better with a few more weeks on it. Tastes just fine either way.
 

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Does the full Juliar treatment mean that the beer will be a useless f#$king excuse for a beer.
No it means I will get unprecedented bonuses paid directly into my bank account B)

I find that supplementing the red with roast barley makes it a bit too dark for my liking, but gives a bit of roast. For comps I would use RB but for personal consumption it's Carared all the way, plus that nice raisin flavour.

RB version:

 

wessmith

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Just brewed my second attempt at a red ale 9 days ago and still I seem to have problems getting a decent red hue from the beer. As follows:

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Boil Size: 44.53 l
Post Boil Volume: 42.64 l
Batch Size (fermenter): 40.00 l
Bottling Volume: 40.00 l
Estimated OG: 1.049 SG
Estimated Color: 31.8 EBC
Estimated IBU: 20.0 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 62.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 63.5 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes
Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
0.50 kg Carared (Weyermann) (47.3 EBC) Grain 3 5.0 %
0.10 kg Roasted Barley (Joe White) (1398.7 EBC) Grain 5 1.0 %
7.00 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 1 69.3 %
20.00 g Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] - Boil 20.0 Hop 7 3.9 IBUs
10.00 g Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] - Boil 0.0 Hop 8 0.0 IBUs
22.00 g Northern Brewer [11.40 %] - Boil 60.0 mi Hop 6 16.1 IBUs
2.00 kg Munich, Light (Joe White) (17.7 EBC) Grain 2 19.8 %
0.50 kg Crystal (Joe White) (141.8 EBC) Grain 4 5.0 %
1.0 pkg SafAle English Ale (DCL/Fermentis #S-04) Yeast 9 -
Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Full Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 10.10 kg
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Name Description Step Temperature Step Time
Mash In Add 26.34 l of water at 76.8 C 68.9 C 45 min

Any suggestions? this was a slight modification of one of the more popular red ales in the database.

Steve.
I would drop out the JW roast barley - that will be skewing the colour to a more brown hue even at 1%

Wes
 

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