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I think that all the moderators have done is allowed Tjorben to exercise his right of reply, nothing more. You can't deny his right to do so surely? Look at how the views of this thread jumped after post 62, certainly attracted a lot of interest on the forum.I'm surprised that the forum management has not required Tjorben to pay up for a AHB Sponsor membership to continue posting about his product. As far as I know, clause 5.2 has been used in the past. Maybe the current lot of moderators are a bit more relaxed than those in the past. Maybe it's an axe waiting to fall.
I think that all the moderators have done is allowed Tjorben to exercise his right of reply, nothing more. You can't deny his right to do so surely? Look at how the views of this thread jumped after post 62, certainly attracted a lot of interest on the forum.
which ever one you go for i hope you enjoy the tool for your brewingI am in the market for such a gizmo and this thread has made the decision for me.
I haven't seen any animosity towards Keg Land? As for grenade throwing the whole idea is to let the damn thing go not let it blow up in ones face. Which certainly happened here.i am certain Tjorben was only exercising his right of reply , while it has attracted interest , but has it sparked interest for the right reasons or has it attracted the interest to throw another grenade at Kegland by the members of this forum
Thank you very much for the kind if long winded message.
I congratulate you on all the work you put into the antenna design but doubt you realise that as a result you may well be exceeding the transmit power specified by the manufacturer. This potentially leads to other undesirable situations that are beyond the scope of this correspondence.
Now I also need to correct a statement I made. If you shut down your servers, the Pill will not be completely useless, but only 95%. Then you can only use the proprietary Bluetooth interface from all the features. That is very good, but then I wonder why you would not use an already existing Bluetooth interface like the Hydrom does? It would let your customers use the Hydrom services and who would say no to something extra for nothing?
There is little point of going into detail about the "readings". Honestly, I am surprised that you even publish such values here. You are only making it look worse but I guess its based on the hope that users without real technical knowledge and understanding might be swayed into believing this has some sort of basis in science.
Maybe you are not familiar that in the first semester of technical studies one learns the “Scientific Method.
Without going into the shortcomings of your statements, I would like to say that none of these absolute BASIC requirements were met. Here is some info material:
You also jumped to conclusions about power useage. The Hydrom dynamically adjusts the transmit power to use less power. If you had measured properly and cleanly then you would have seen that.
As long as you can't present anything reliable, I suggest you hold back with unprovable comparison. It not only looks unprofessional but in fact is.
Even though you misspoke, I got your point about "unhygienic production" the first time around.
As I said, a little more effort to clean the hydrom. Thanks for explaining it in more detail.
Thanks for the cloud paragraph, even if it wasn't about the cloud. Of course customers can make up for your conceptual errors by programming their own but why not do it properly in the first place?
Not a single, real advantage of a proprietary cloud was offered up? Automatic updates? Dangerous, but also done better without cloud. Will introduce the hydrom with a warning sign this year too.
So there was a lot of text (I am told you have form on this) that is not very meaningful. I think you need to do better before you attack a competitors product with shallow understanding and lack of technical rigour.
You lied on the following points:
- Better reception of the Pill
- Less power consumption
- Unhygienic production of the Hydrom
- Pill is 50x better than the Hydrom.
I really wonder about your business practices. Competitors instead of perfecting their own product tell lies about competing products is not a great look. I wish you would not do that in the future or at least provide real evidence for your claims rather than making everything “cloudy”.
Look at how the views of this thread jumped after post 62, certainly attracted a lot of interest on the forum.
I am looking forward to Brewfather, Beartsmith, Brewtools, Grainfather etc integration
Well that covers about 10% of the forum. I expect seeing there is a Hydrom up for grabs free on the other forum there could be a free Rapt Pill in the offering here. Though there are a couple who have blown there chances on the Hydrom offer.Yeah but.
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I have a Rapt pill and have been using regularly for just over 1 year now. While cleaning after the last three or four brews when I start to unscew the pill, there seems to be a gas build up inside as it nearly 'explodes' apart. It still works perfectly well and there is no moisture inside so it isn't leaking hence the pressure build up. Sorry if this has been raised before but is anyone else encountering this and would this idicate a dodgy battery? I am using it in the kegland allrounder pressure fermentor whether that would be a factor.
Appreciate any help, cheers
I think this post is quite interesting having both companies reps provide a heck of a lot more information than we would find elsewhere.
Tjorben and Kegland have the right to chat with each other.
Tjorben deserves the benefit of the doubt regarding his slightly abrasive language as he's not a native English speaker.
I'm sure if I used mein bestes Deutsch with Tjorben he might scratch his head at my unintentional "tone"
Regarding the Pill, I have 4 which I use regularly, 1 was DOA and Kegland are sorting out a replacement for me.
As an ex-web developer and IT nerd of 25 years my thoughts are:
From a business perspective Kegland have no real motivation to invest in this toy other than the fact they love the home brew scene and think its cool.
- The RAPT environment was in Beta when released
- The portal and app are slowly improving but are still clunky
- I am looking forward to Brewfather, Beartsmith, Brewtools, Grainfather etc integration
- The customer service has been good
- At the price point I cant complain too hard about things
- It might be an idea to opensource the portal development (or a version of it) in order to allow the community to help
So I'm thankful and happy to wait
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