Partigyle Attemp

[chappo1970]

Ok have a stab at a Partigyle this afternoon for a little bit of fun. Here's the recipe that I have done...

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 50.00 L
Boil Size: 63.68 L
Estimated OG: 1.089 SG
Estimated Color: 21.2 EBC
Estimated IBU: 39.2 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 85.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
0.10 kg Treacle [Boil for 15 min] Extract 0.60 %
15.00 kg Pale Malt, Maris Otter (5.9 EBC) Grain 90.63 %
0.70 kg Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (118.2 EBC) Grain 4.23 %
0.30 kg Aromatic Malt (51.2 EBC) Grain 1.81 %
0.10 kg Biscuit Malt (45.3 EBC) Grain 0.60 %
100.00 gm Challenger [7.90 %] (90 min) Hops 31.8 IBU
60.00 gm Styrian Goldings [5.40 %] (20 min) Hops 7.4 IBU
42.00 gm Styrian Goldings [5.40 %] (Dry Hop 3 daysHops -
1.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc
2.00 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Primary 3.0 days) Misc
25.00 gm Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 min) Misc
0.35 kg Invert Sugar (0.0 EBC) Sugar 2.11 %
1 Pkgs London ESB Ale (Wyeast Labs #1968) Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: Temperature Mash, 2 Step, Full Body
Total Grain Weight: 16.10 kg
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Temperature Mash, 2 Step, Full Body
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
15 min Protein Rest Add 48.32 L of water at 53.5 C 50.0 C
75 min Saccharification Heat to 65.0 C over 15 min 65.0 C
10 min Mash Out Heat to 78.0 C over 10 min 78.0 C

First will be an ESB-ish on first runnings

And still debating what to do with the second runnings


Cheers

Chappo

 

[chappo1970]

Doughing in...

 

[RdeVjun]

And still debating what to do with the second runnings

Dunno, maybe caramelise some of it?

Something I've wanted to do for ages is a partigyle but seeing as I normally BIAB/dunk sparge I haven't really bothered.

 

[TidalPete]

Never done a partyguile or read up on it much Chap Chap but I suppose you could steep some amber seperately to add to the 2nd runnings boil & call it a Mild?

TP

 

[chappo1970]

Stepping mash to 67C...

and a few brewery shots

 

[Mantis]

Looks like your brewing assistant has been on the turps :lol:

 

[raven19]

Looks like your brewing assistant has been on the turps :lol:

Missing the ninja suit, to help guard the wort! B)

 

[chappo1970]

Never done a partyguile or read up on it much Chap Chap but I suppose you could steep some amber seperately to add to the 2nd runnings boil & call it a Mild?

TP

You talked me into TP!

A mild it is!

Chap Chap

 

[MattC]

So now a partigyle is where you use the first runnings for a stronger style beer, and the second for a weaker beer?? is that right??

Chappo, you are planning an ESB type beer from the first runnings?? What strength will this be?

Keen to know of your intentions for your second runnings? Any further thoughts?

 

[chappo1970]

Here's an interesting tid bit for HERMies or those thinking about HERMS. If you seen Screwy bang on about not to worry about the MLT temp but concentrate on the wort flow temp. Here in these photo's shows what he is talking about. I'll take another set just before mash out and you'll see all three will be insinc...

Pic #1 is the MLT at 65C
Pic #2 is the Wort thru the HE 66.5C
Pic #3 is the HE vessel itself at call it 68.5C

 

[chappo1970]

So now a partigyle is where you use the first runnings for a stronger style beer, and the second for a weaker beer?? is that right??

Chappo, you are planning an ESB type beer from the first runnings?? What strength will this be?

Keen to know of your intentions for your second runnings? Any further thoughts?

It's going to a bigger beer but depending on the OG I get I might water it back.

Going a mild now for simplicity Matt

Cheers

Chap Chap

 

[gregs]

I see youve taken a photo of your own AHB post there Chappo, makes me wonder how many mirrors you may have in that house. :lol:

Obviously your assistant knows you well. BTW when will you be up this way?

 

[chappo1970]

I see you've taken a photo of your own AHB post there Chappo, makes me wonder how many mirrors you may have in that house. :lol:

Obviously your assistant knows you well. BTW when will you be up this way?

:lol: He is the laziest Brewing Assistant <_<

Some time this year-ish LOL!

Planning around April would love to catch up and see all those rigs of the Bundy Construction boys

 

[gregs]

April it is then, will be good to catch up over a few beers.

Chappo is the temp in your system relative to HERMS & MLT close during mashout.

 

[chappo1970]

April it is then, will be good to catch up over a few beers.

Chappo is the temp in your system relative to HERMS & MLT close during mashout.

As I get higher up the temp scale everything seems to fall in line. So yes.

Chap Chap

 

[gregs]

Thanks Chap not trying to hijack your tread but you highlighted a very good point on temps when HERMS brewing.

Chappo as Im yet to fit a thermometer to my mash tun. Also how long does your 50litre batch take to equalise in the mash tun after your HERMS has reached mashout temp? Sorry for the questions but this is a great subject. Cheers

 

[chappo1970]

Thanks Chap not trying to hijack your tread but you highlighted a very good point on temps when HERMS brewing.

Chappo as I'm yet to fit a thermometer to my mash tun. Also how long does your 50litre batch take to equalise in the mash tun after your HERMS has reached mashout temp? Sorry for the questions but this is a great subject. Cheers

Not at all Greg I mentioned it to raise the subject while I was waiting for sucker to mash etc. And was hoping a few HERMies would chime in. Seems HERMS discussions are far and few between, huh?

About 20mins seems to be the norm but I am happy to go with the wort flow temp and only look at the MLT temp out of curiosity. As Screwy says the conversions happen in the mash liquid not the grains.

Chap Chap

 

[Gavo]

Just love posting pic's of the rig hey Chappo. I wonder what more insulation would do for the MLT? Certainly one could expect to see less difference in temp between the MLT and wort flow temp... yes/no?

Good to see an actual brew happening anyway.

Gavo.

 

[chappo1970]

Here's the temps at mash out now...

Pict#1 is the MLT at 78C
Pict#2 is Wort Flow at 78.5C
Pict#3 is HE at 83C but it is in a heating cycle

 

[bradsbrew]

I think its time I bought a pump and head down the herms road. Then I can be a Herm-boy