Peteoz77
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It seems to me that lately, any "Crooks" that seem to a risk in even the least bit are severely dealt with by Aussie Cops. Sorry if any of you are cops, not trying to rile you up. Please Consider
In USA, nearly every single person has a gun, or is legally allowed to own a gun. Anyone can at any time a have a gun with them in their car, ready to pull it out an use it. I'm not saying they will, but just keep this in mind. ANY cop, at ANY time might pull someone over and when they advance on the car, might get shot. That's not the case in AUS, VERY VERY few people have guns, and if they do, they spend most of their lives inside a gun locker, under lock and key. What i am saying is that the possibility of an AUS police officer ever having to deal with a citizen that has a gun, and is willing to use it is Very Very Very low.
OK, so why is it that in at least every single week, we hear of an Aus Citizen being shot and killed by an Aussie police officer. OK, maybe it's not that often, but I think it is WAY too often than a cop kills a "lawbreaker" who only has a knife, and is almost definitely not going to Kill anyone with it.
I am loosely referring to the "robbers" that were shot, one of them killed outside a hotel in Syd a few days ago. Or the kid that had a knife and was shot to death a few weeks ago, or any of the other police inflicted death sentences that have occurred this year in Aus. What I do not understand is.. if I am a cop with a gun, I am NOT going to KILL someone unless I feel that I am (or someone else is) going to definitely DIE if I don't pull the trigger and stop the perpetrator. These guys were shot, one of them killed, and neither one of them was a real, immediate threat.
I'm just saying that the one guy with a weapon could have been shot in any number of places other than vital organs to get him to drop the weapon. Aim for a leg or two, an arm or two, even just fire a serious warning shot. Instead (as i understand it), they aimed for a heart shot, intending to kill. I am not a cop, and i would never want to be in this type of situation. However, if I were a cop, and I had all of the training, and hopefully the experience I would think that my job would be to NOT kill a citizen at ALL costs, other than loss of other life (including mine)
So here's the question.... Does anyone else think that the Aus Police may be a little too ready to KILL someone that could quite easily just have been subdued, or injured, rather than killed? I'm saying that I think it's fine for a cop to have a knife wound or two, rather than certified kills on his record.
Ivan Milat is alive and well after having admitted to killing a lot of people. We will spend MILLIONS on him before he dies a natural death. But a guy in Sydney, didn't even commit a crime (yes, he wanted to, but didn't) and he is dead because a cop was a little scared? There are a lot of other admitted, convicted murderers in prisons in Aus, that we are too wonderful of a society to put to death, but a teenage kid with a knife is dead... because a cop was scared?
Here's where it gets silly... Australians have such a left wing image that it hurts, but for some reason, not ONE politician has made a comment on these killings performed by Aussie police. Not one Clergyman. Not one Actor or Musician. For some reason, we all just sit back and let the police murder "suspects" that have not been proven to have done anything wrong...
I'm just saying...
OK, the other side of the coin is that most of these guys that have been killed are scum. the dregs of society, and I am GLAD they are gone. I just wish that there was some sort of polarity between the guys that they have the cuffs on to the guys that have not yet been cuffed. Seems if they are killed before they are cuffed it is 110% fine with 99% of Australians. But get the cuffs on and they can be Ivan Milat or any other beast of a human being, and they are golden, and get a lifetime of cable tv, workout gym, great food, and better life than they would have had if they had not been caught.
Am I wrong?
In USA, nearly every single person has a gun, or is legally allowed to own a gun. Anyone can at any time a have a gun with them in their car, ready to pull it out an use it. I'm not saying they will, but just keep this in mind. ANY cop, at ANY time might pull someone over and when they advance on the car, might get shot. That's not the case in AUS, VERY VERY few people have guns, and if they do, they spend most of their lives inside a gun locker, under lock and key. What i am saying is that the possibility of an AUS police officer ever having to deal with a citizen that has a gun, and is willing to use it is Very Very Very low.
OK, so why is it that in at least every single week, we hear of an Aus Citizen being shot and killed by an Aussie police officer. OK, maybe it's not that often, but I think it is WAY too often than a cop kills a "lawbreaker" who only has a knife, and is almost definitely not going to Kill anyone with it.
I am loosely referring to the "robbers" that were shot, one of them killed outside a hotel in Syd a few days ago. Or the kid that had a knife and was shot to death a few weeks ago, or any of the other police inflicted death sentences that have occurred this year in Aus. What I do not understand is.. if I am a cop with a gun, I am NOT going to KILL someone unless I feel that I am (or someone else is) going to definitely DIE if I don't pull the trigger and stop the perpetrator. These guys were shot, one of them killed, and neither one of them was a real, immediate threat.
I'm just saying that the one guy with a weapon could have been shot in any number of places other than vital organs to get him to drop the weapon. Aim for a leg or two, an arm or two, even just fire a serious warning shot. Instead (as i understand it), they aimed for a heart shot, intending to kill. I am not a cop, and i would never want to be in this type of situation. However, if I were a cop, and I had all of the training, and hopefully the experience I would think that my job would be to NOT kill a citizen at ALL costs, other than loss of other life (including mine)
So here's the question.... Does anyone else think that the Aus Police may be a little too ready to KILL someone that could quite easily just have been subdued, or injured, rather than killed? I'm saying that I think it's fine for a cop to have a knife wound or two, rather than certified kills on his record.
Ivan Milat is alive and well after having admitted to killing a lot of people. We will spend MILLIONS on him before he dies a natural death. But a guy in Sydney, didn't even commit a crime (yes, he wanted to, but didn't) and he is dead because a cop was a little scared? There are a lot of other admitted, convicted murderers in prisons in Aus, that we are too wonderful of a society to put to death, but a teenage kid with a knife is dead... because a cop was scared?
Here's where it gets silly... Australians have such a left wing image that it hurts, but for some reason, not ONE politician has made a comment on these killings performed by Aussie police. Not one Clergyman. Not one Actor or Musician. For some reason, we all just sit back and let the police murder "suspects" that have not been proven to have done anything wrong...
I'm just saying...
OK, the other side of the coin is that most of these guys that have been killed are scum. the dregs of society, and I am GLAD they are gone. I just wish that there was some sort of polarity between the guys that they have the cuffs on to the guys that have not yet been cuffed. Seems if they are killed before they are cuffed it is 110% fine with 99% of Australians. But get the cuffs on and they can be Ivan Milat or any other beast of a human being, and they are golden, and get a lifetime of cable tv, workout gym, great food, and better life than they would have had if they had not been caught.
Am I wrong?