That's funny, because I shot one of those guys a pm about a 50l and possibly a 200l and never got a reply.
Not having a go in any way. Just stating what I know.
I must admit that PM is not the most reliable contact method and I know Mark admits this too, I don't know about G&G. Mark is not on this forum to drum up business, he offers advice and will generally answer things if asked, he doesn't pedal his products on this forum. He is on this forum because like us, he too is a keen homebrewer. PM is generally for personal stuff and telephone is for business. If you were keen you'd probably try the telephone. I have to admit he is not spectacular at returning calls but is spectacular if you call him.
IMHO this does not work for continous batch manufacture, thats why 3v is the way to go if you need volume. Of course , he could just buy 2 units for less than a Beerbelly right ? :lol:
Dont get me wrong I think the Braumeister is an awesome piece of kit, but if you were considering a pilot setup then other considerations might be the fact he'd probably need two people or a pulley system for lifting out the grain on 50l system, it doesn't have a gas option if cost per kwh where he is is exhorbitant, he'd need a separate hot water source for sparging and it doesn't have the grain capacity for big ie high OG beers if thats what he might want to create one day. While probably not a consideration for a pilot plant, he'd also need a decent high amp outlet to run it...
I agree with what you have said but I'll add some caveats.
What you have pointed out aren't big issues but I agree they are considerations.
It seemed to me he was interested in continious batching to be able to get to 50L with his current (I assume 25L) system. He wouldn't need to do this if he cranks out 50L in a sitting. Yeah yeah, two 50L units would be good. :super:
A full malt pipe in a 50L really isn't that heavy, it is just breaking the intial suction that requires some effort sometimes. Since GUB seems to be talking in the plural I think he has two people covered. Pulley system is not hard to rig up.
GPO's hardly ever run out of gas.
Yes he would need a hot water source for sparging.
They do have the capicity for making high gravity beers, of a lower volume output than 50L. However you can do reiterative mashing for high gravity in 50L output. Or you could add malt extract :icon_vomit: or sugarz.
Decent high amp output would actually be 15 amp, it's no big deal to get a sparky in to do that.
If it was used as a pilot plant in a commercial setting, a BM would certainly take up less of the commercial space.
Gee sounds like I am a little defensive, I don't mean to be.
My advice in the context of what GUB has said, remains as at least have a look at a Braumeister.