Merri Mashers Specialty IPA Comp - June 14, 2015

[krausenhaus]

Hey sharpcliff, styles for specialty IPAs are in the draft guidelines here:

http://www.bjcp.org/docs/2014%20BJCP%20Style%20Guidelines%20%28DRAFT%29.pdf

 

[tallie]

Is there any published info regarding new style guidelines yet for the new IPA categories? I still don't know the difference between White IPA & Belgian IPA. White IPA would maybe be a stronger and hoppier version of an American Wheat? And Belgian IPA should be an American style IPA but fermented with a Belgian yeast?

I don't have my judge # on me at the moment, but I am recognized and would be excited to judge. I will hopefully have a couple of entries as well if that's not a major conflict.

Thanks sharpcliff, I'll add you to the judges list.

Regarding the guidelines, we were really hoping the new ones would have been published by now, but as they're not, we'll be working off the draft (Category 21B).

 

[sharpcliff]

Cheers! I have never saw the draft. I had only seen the presentation at last year's announcement.

 

[carniebrew]

Those guidelines are linked off both ipacomp.com and the compmaster page for the comp.

But for anyone who hasn't looked through them, a White IPA is basically an IPA version of a Belgian Wit....i.e. it can have coriander and orange peel, with plenty of booze and american-style hops. A Belgian IPA is pretty much just an American IPA fermented with the kind of Belgian yeast used in a Golden Strong or Tripel. Although they do warn to be careful when choosing your hop & yeast combo as they can clash badly.

I won't be surprised if the White & Belgian sub-cats are a bit light on for entries...they sound pretty challenging....

 

[MartinOC]

Like I said awhile ago, it's gonna be a tough-gig for the judges......

 

[carniebrew]

The 2015 BJCP Guidelines have finally been officially released: http://www.bjcp.org/docs/2015_Guidelines_Beer.pdf

No changes of note for our category 21B, so we're full steam ahead for our Specialty IPA comp.

 

[big78sam]

Have drop off location been sorted for this yet? I'm keen to enter as long as there's a drop off within relatively easy access (CBD or Sunbury)

 

[carniebrew]

Have drop off location been sorted for this yet? I'm keen to enter as long as there's a drop off within relatively easy access (CBD or Sunbury)

Yep, all the details are on the compmaster page. Pretty much the same drop-off points as Vicbrew uses, with the addition of Home Make It Reservoir and the Terminus Hotel in Fitzroy North.

 

[Trevandjo]

Stupid question. If I lodge via compmaster will I be able to access my feedback. The reason I ask is my previous (manually entered) beer comp entry ( different club ) never gave me any feedback which was very disappointing.

 

[carniebrew]

Yep, the judges scoresheets for your beer will be uploaded to your compmaster account, you should have them very quickly after the judging is complete. To be honest we're thinking of canning manual entries after this first comp, it's too much hassle for both the comp and the entrants.

 

[MartinOC]

Stupid question. If I lodge via compmaster will I be able to access my feedback. The reason I ask is my previous (manually entered) beer comp entry ( different club ) never gave me any feedback which was very disappointing.

Who/what was the club & the comp. you entered? Mostly, the organisers are good at getting judging sheets out to entrants reasonably quickly, so I'm guessing there may have been some info. missing from your manual entry form that's caused the problem?

PM me your details (& details of the comp. involved & I'll see if I can sort it out through the next VICBREW meeting (scheduled for tomorrow night, but might not go ahead due to apologies..).

 

[big78sam]

I'd like to drop off on Saturday 13th at the Terminus and I see dropoffs required by midday. The Terminus doesn't open to the public until midday so what is the go if we want to drop off on the Saturday (I don't have a CPBF and will be filling from a keg so to do this as late as possible.) Can we leave bottles a bit earlier even if it's not open for customers? Is shortly after 12 OK?

 

[Midnight Brew]

Does this event need any more stewards?

 

[carniebrew]

PM MartinOC to check, he's heading that up for us. Appreciate the offer.

 

[MartinOC]

Does this event need any more stewards?

Carnie beat me to the punch by about 5 seconds!!

We can always do with an experienced hand mate. I'm sure I can find something for you to do.

 

[Midnight Brew]

Carnie beat me to the punch by about 5 seconds!!

We can always do with an experienced hand mate. I'm sure I can find something for you to do.

Book me in!

 

[Danscraftbeer]

How exacting is the science of these categories?
They seem a little intimidating for the only possible entry a novice like me could make etc.

I hack out my own recipes and this Harvest IPA of mine might fall under 40 IBU as I can recognize.
and thats below the lowest range....................?
OG = 1.066
FG = 1.009
IBU = (it feels like 40IBU or less)
Color = 10.6 SRM , or 20.9 EBC
abv = 7.5%

A shitload of home grown Cascade Hops that seem to be more late hopped than early etc.
Should I bother?

 

[MartinOC]

Mate, remember that this is a Specialty IPA comp., so any beer you enter will be evaluated against the style guidelines applicable to whatever sub-style you put it into. That said, I believe there's also a "Popular choice" prize (for a bit of fun) that's nothing to do with specific styles?

It'll only cost you $6 to get valuable feedback from judges on where you're at with your brewing generally, even if they do mark-down for being out of style.

 

[Spiesy]

How exacting is the science of these categories?
They seem a little intimidating for the only possible entry a novice like me could make etc.

I hack out my own recipes and this Harvest IPA of mine might fall under 40 IBU as I can recognize.
and thats below the lowest range....................?
OG = 1.066
FG = 1.009
IBU = (it feels like 40IBU or less)
Color = 10.6 SRM , or 20.9 EBC
abv = 7.5%

A shitload of home grown Cascade Hops that seem to be more late hopped than early etc.
Should I bother?

7.5% and <40 IBU sounds a little out of balance, but which IPA are you going for? Is it Black, Red, White or Belgian? If the other components aren't there (colour, yeast etc), maybe not.

 

[big78sam]

I'd like to drop off on Saturday 13th at the Terminus and I see dropoffs required by midday. The Terminus doesn't open to the public until midday so what is the go if we want to drop off on the Saturday (I don't have a CPBF and will be filling from a keg so to do this as late as possible.) Can we leave bottles a bit earlier even if it's not open for customers? Is shortly after 12 OK?

Bump. Anyone have an idea? I can ring the terminus but would prefer a confirmation from someone organizing.

 

[droid]

I've got a whacked out hoppy apa? only in grolsch, probably a bit rude tho isn't it?

 

[dave.wilton]

Bump. Anyone have an idea? I can ring the terminus but would prefer a confirmation from someone organizing.

I will message one of the chief stewards for you

 

[carniebrew]

Bump. Anyone have an idea? I can ring the terminus but would prefer a confirmation from someone organizing.

Sorry, missed your orginal message. Just after midday will be fine, I'll look into pushing that Saturday time out to 1pm.

 

[carniebrew]

I've got a whacked out hoppy apa? only in grolsch, probably a bit rude tho isn't it?

Your call droid...chuck it in Red or Brown and just take the points hit on a couple of fronts? As others have said, we have a "Carwyn's Choice" for the Carywn Cellar's guys favourite beer that's "not quite" to style...so you never know!

 

[Danscraftbeer]

Cheers guys.
<<<<<<Thats it in the photo ha,,

7.5% and <40 IBU sounds a little out of balance, but which IPA are you going for? Is it Black, Red, White or Belgian? If the other components aren't there (colour, yeast etc), maybe not.

It falls into Brown IPA buy the skin of its teeth but all over the shop really. Bottom end of IBU and color. Top end of ABV.
The results of guesstimating fresh home grown Cascade hops. It wasn't made to go in a comp.
Its only just carbonated in keg so I'll see what its like after a week or so, might throw it in anyway for the exercise.
Its a good beer actually but would be a lot better around 50 to 60 IBU.

 

[Spiesy]

Cheers guys.
<<<<<<Thats it in the photo ha,,
It falls into Brown IPA buy the skin of its teeth but all over the shop really. Bottom end of IBU and color. Top end of ABV.
The results of guesstimating fresh home grown Cascade hops. It wasn't made to go in a comp.
Its only just carbonated in keg so I'll see what its like after a week or so, might throw it in anyway for the exercise.
Its a good beer actually but would be a lot better around 50 to 60 IBU.

No better way to learn about your beer (and your brewing) than by entering it into a comp!

 

[big78sam]

Sorry, missed your orginal message. Just after midday will be fine, I'll look into pushing that Saturday time out to 1pm.

Thanks mate.

 

[GrantSpatchcock]

Threw a couple of bottles in the post today, should be interesting to see the results. The more unusual styles like White and Belgian are quite tricky as I've found out, couldn't find a recipe for a Belgian that fit the style guide anywhere. So I just threw hops at it until it couldn't take any more and am hoping for the best!

 

[Pogierob]

The comp is only a few weeks away, get your entries signed up and sent off,



or don't.... I'll be happy to win the awesome prizes..

http://merrimashers.org/ipa-comp

 

[Trevandjo]

Is there a list of drop-off points anywhere? I'll be travelling down the Calder this Sunday.