March Pump Bulk Buy

[sijani]

Seriously...this has gone on a long time..?

We deserve an answer.

 

[jeddog]

+1

he has 31 interested in buying and still drags his feet. I spoke to him yesterday and was told he would get back to me before the day was out. That was the same answer as i got a few weeks ago and a few weeks before that... :angry:

 

[Back Yard Brewer]

+1

he has 31 interested in buying and still drags his feet. I spoke to him yesterday and was told he would get back to me before the day was out. That was the same answer as i got a few weeks ago and a few weeks before that... :angry:

Maybe he is getting cold feet? There could be a retailer or two knocking on his door h34r: What ever the problem I am watching this thread with interest to see what the final price will come up at. Maaaaaaaaay look at another one myself.



BYB

 

[fraser_john]

<snip> There could be a retailer or two knocking on his door h34r: <snip>

I would hope that if that's the case he would just tell us so, least that way we don't feel like we are being jerked around too much and we would understand his situation.

John

 

[kirem]

It is just an idea, but why don't you put a retailer in the loop, like one of the site sponsors.

If you approach a retailer and cut a deal then the retailer can put an order in for 31 units plus what ever they want. You will still get a great price, maybe even better.

You get a good price, the retailer may get a better than their standard price for buying one or two and every one is happy.

There is precidence for this type of thing, Ross at Craftbrewer has offered to be a central point for malt 'bulk buys' in the past.

Just an idea......

 

[Online Brewing Supplies]

It is just an idea, but why don't you put a retailer in the loop, like one of the site sponsors.

If you approach a retailer and cut a deal then the retailer can put an order in for 31 units plus what ever they want. You will still get a great price, maybe even better.

You get a good price, the retailer may get a better than their standard price for buying one or two and every one is happy.

There is precidence for this type of thing, Ross at Craftbrewer has offered to be a central point for malt 'bulk buys' in the past.

Just an idea......

I say if you are going down that track, dont just put Ross's name up there, do the right thing and put it up for tender buy retailers, this is how it works in the real world.
GB

 

[Online Brewing Supplies]

1. sera, pump + impeller upgrade, interested regardless of price
2. RetsamHsam, pump (impeller unspecified?), pending price
3. gap, pump+impeller upgrade, pending price
4. Brendo - pump & impeller, pending price
5. Sijani, pump pending price, impeller pending price
6 Doogiechap impeller upgrade, interested regardless of price
7. fraser_john, pump, pending price
8. peas_and_corn pump, impeller upgrade, pending price
9. Cannibal Smurf, pump pending price, impeller pending price
10. Beernut, pretty darn interested in pump
11. Gruntus, pump (regardless of price), impeller pending price
12. Aleech, pump pending price, impeller pending price
13. Troydo, pump pending price, impeller pending price
14. Dicko ACT - pump and impeller pending price
15. jeddog - pump and impeller pending price
16. Homekegger - pump pending dollars
17. GumbyOne - pump pending price, impeller pending price
18. OLDS2006 - pump & impeller pending price
19. mrpolly - pump & impeller pending price
20. cliff40 - pump and impeller pending price
21. DK - pump and impeller pending price
22. Peteoz77, interested in pump + impeller, depending on price
23. discostu, pump and impeller pending price
24. beerdingo, pump+impeller upgrade, pending price
25. Gava, pump+impeller upgrade, pending price
26. Steve - 809 impeller upgrade (price pending)
27. Sammus - 809 impeller upgrade (price pending)
28. QldKev - pump pending price, impeller pending price
29. shanster - pump and impeller pending price
30. balconybrewer - pump and impeller (price pending)
31. shimple - pump and impeller (pending price)
32, GB-Impeller upgrade with fries LOL (Price pending approval)

 

[kirem]

I say if you are going down that track, dont just put Ross's name up there, do the right thing and put it up for tender buy retailers, this is how it works in the real world.
GB

Your right, sorry. I was just using a malt 'bulk buy' through a retailer that I knew of.

There are a number of retailers that you could do this through

A great idea, put it up for tender.

My apologies Gryphon.

 

[Online Brewing Supplies]

Your right, sorry. I was just using a malt 'bulk buy' through a retailer that I knew of.

There are a number of retailers that you could do this through

A great idea, put it up for tender.

My apologies Gryphon.

I understand and took no offence, just thought it was a better way to do this.
GB

 

[browndog]

1. sera, pump + impeller upgrade, interested regardless of price
2. RetsamHsam, pump (impeller unspecified?), pending price
3. gap, pump+impeller upgrade, pending price
4. Brendo - pump & impeller, pending price
5. Sijani, pump pending price, impeller pending price
6 Doogiechap impeller upgrade, interested regardless of price
7. fraser_john, pump, pending price
8. peas_and_corn pump, impeller upgrade, pending price
9. Cannibal Smurf, pump pending price, impeller pending price
10. Beernut, pretty darn interested in pump
11. Gruntus, pump (regardless of price), impeller pending price
12. Aleech, pump pending price, impeller pending price
13. Troydo, pump pending price, impeller pending price
14. Dicko ACT - pump and impeller pending price
15. jeddog - pump and impeller pending price
16. Homekegger - pump pending dollars
17. GumbyOne - pump pending price, impeller pending price
18. OLDS2006 - pump & impeller pending price
19. mrpolly - pump & impeller pending price
20. cliff40 - pump and impeller pending price
21. DK - pump and impeller pending price
22. Peteoz77, interested in pump + impeller, depending on price
23. discostu, pump and impeller pending price
24. beerdingo, pump+impeller upgrade, pending price
25. Gava, pump+impeller upgrade, pending price
26. Steve - 809 impeller upgrade (price pending)
27. Sammus - 809 impeller upgrade (price pending)
28. QldKev - pump pending price, impeller pending price
29. shanster - pump and impeller pending price
30. balconybrewer - pump and impeller (price pending)
31. shimple - pump and impeller (pending price)
32, GB-Impeller upgrade with fries LOL (Price pending approval)
33. Browndog- possibly an impeller upgrade and a new pump, pending price.


cheers

Browndog

 

[Gulpa]

1. sera, pump + impeller upgrade, interested regardless of price
2. RetsamHsam, pump (impeller unspecified?), pending price
3. gap, pump+impeller upgrade, pending price
4. Brendo - pump & impeller, pending price
5. Sijani, pump pending price, impeller pending price
6 Doogiechap impeller upgrade, interested regardless of price
7. fraser_john, pump, pending price
8. peas_and_corn pump, impeller upgrade, pending price
9. Cannibal Smurf, pump pending price, impeller pending price
10. Beernut, pretty darn interested in pump
11. Gruntus, pump (regardless of price), impeller pending price
12. Aleech, pump pending price, impeller pending price
13. Troydo, pump pending price, impeller pending price
14. Dicko ACT - pump and impeller pending price
15. jeddog - pump and impeller pending price
16. Homekegger - pump pending dollars
17. GumbyOne - pump pending price, impeller pending price
18. OLDS2006 - pump & impeller pending price
19. mrpolly - pump & impeller pending price
20. cliff40 - pump and impeller pending price
21. DK - pump and impeller pending price
22. Peteoz77, interested in pump + impeller, depending on price
23. discostu, pump and impeller pending price
24. beerdingo, pump+impeller upgrade, pending price
25. Gava, pump+impeller upgrade, pending price
26. Steve - 809 impeller upgrade (price pending)
27. Sammus - 809 impeller upgrade (price pending)
28. QldKev - pump pending price, impeller pending price
29. shanster - pump and impeller pending price
30. balconybrewer - pump and impeller (price pending)
31. shimple - pump and impeller (pending price)
32, GB-Impeller upgrade with fries LOL (Price pending approval)
33. Browndog- possibly an impeller upgrade and a new pump, pending price.
34. Gulpa - pump with impeller (pp)

About time I became a real brewer.

cheers
Andrew.

 

[Dicko ACT]

I thought we were pushing this BB through in a timely manner?

We now have 34 buyers, most looking for to upgrade the impeller as well.

Who are we sourcing these pumps from?

From a simple Google search, I have found a heap of supplier both domestically and O/S for the 809 (or 815) march pump... As yet, I haven't seen a single quote.

No offence to you Sera, thanks for kicking this off BUT if we are getting dicked around by a single supplier why do we take GB's advice and put our BB up for tender.

I'm more than happy to start throwing out some emails and seeing what price I come up with?

Let me know BB'ers!

 

[troydo]

do it!

 

[fraser_john]

It is just an idea, but why don't you put a retailer in the loop, like one of the site sponsors.

+1, ask for a tender from all site sponsors that can get the pump, best unit price wins!

John

 

[sijani]

+26.3

Jungle law....

 

[technocat]

I know some guys out there are going to crucify me for saying this but it has to be said. With this order shaping up to be a rather large one, why have a middle man. The Sales Manager of Process Pumps the Australian Distributors of March Pumps has his name and phone number on their Website for all to see so wouldn't it be prudent to contact him for a bulk price. This order is hardly one you would put to a retailer and it would be rather naive to assume so. I have been associated with sales at a wholesale level and am well acquainted with wheeling and dealing over lunches and dinners and behind closed doors to gain financial advantage. Without giving this matter anymore publicity than it already has had, In my view this purchase should be taken directly to the source.

 

[kirem]

I know some guys out there are going to crucify me for saying this but it has to be said. With this order shaping up to be a rather large one, why have a middle man. The Sales Manager of Process Pumps the Australian Distributors of March Pumps has his name and phone number on their Website for all to see so wouldn't it be prudent to contact him for a bulk price. This order is hardly one you would put to a retailer and it would be rather naive to assume so. I have been associated with sales at a wholesale level and am well acquainted with wheeling and dealing over lunches and dinners and behind closed doors to gain financial advantage. Without giving this matter anymore publicity than it already has had, In my view this purchase should be taken directly to the source.

I was reading in this thread that the bulk buy might not go ahead due to Process Pumps not wanting to upset their retail customer base by selling direct. I thought perhaps you could look at killing to birds with one stone.

It is just an option that could be explored, might work out good or it might not, you won't know until you ask.

The way I see it the bulk buy through process pumps is in serious danger of not going ahead.

 

[gava]

1. sera, pump + impeller upgrade, interested regardless of price
2. RetsamHsam, pump (impeller unspecified?), pending price
3. gap, pump+impeller upgrade, pending price
4. Brendo - pump & impeller, pending price
5. Sijani, pump pending price, impeller pending price
6 Doogiechap impeller upgrade, interested regardless of price
7. fraser_john, pump, pending price
8. peas_and_corn pump, impeller upgrade, pending price
9. Cannibal Smurf, pump pending price, impeller pending price
10. Beernut, pretty darn interested in pump
11. Gruntus, pump (regardless of price), impeller pending price
12. Aleech, pump pending price, impeller pending price
13. Troydo, pump pending price, impeller pending price
14. Dicko ACT - pump and impeller pending price
15. jeddog - pump and impeller pending price
16. Homekegger - pump pending dollars
17. GumbyOne - pump pending price, impeller pending price
18. OLDS2006 - pump & impeller pending price
19. mrpolly - pump & impeller pending price
20. cliff40 - pump and impeller pending price
21. DK - pump and impeller pending price
22. Peteoz77, interested in pump + impeller, depending on price
23. discostu, pump and impeller pending price
24. beerdingo, pump+impeller upgrade, pending price
25. Gava, pump+impeller upgrade, pending price <--- Dropped out, window for spending closed...
26. Steve - 809 impeller upgrade (price pending)
27. Sammus - 809 impeller upgrade (price pending)
28. QldKev - pump pending price, impeller pending price
29. shanster - pump and impeller pending price
30. balconybrewer - pump and impeller (price pending)
31. shimple - pump and impeller (pending price)
32, GB-Impeller upgrade with fries LOL (Price pending approval)
33. Browndog- possibly an impeller upgrade and a new pump, pending price.
34. Gulpa - pump with impeller (pp)

Im out of this now, too long to get $$ spent $$ on other things.

 

[jayandcath]

1. sera, pump + impeller upgrade, interested regardless of price
2. RetsamHsam, pump (impeller unspecified?), pending price
3. gap, pump+impeller upgrade, pending price
4. Brendo - pump & impeller, pending price
5. Sijani, pump pending price, impeller pending price
6 Doogiechap impeller upgrade, interested regardless of price
7. fraser_john, pump, pending price
8. peas_and_corn pump, impeller upgrade, pending price
9. Cannibal Smurf, pump pending price, impeller pending price
10. Beernut, pretty darn interested in pump
11. Gruntus, pump (regardless of price), impeller pending price
12. Aleech, pump pending price, impeller pending price
13. Troydo, pump pending price, impeller pending price
14. Dicko ACT - pump and impeller pending price
15. jeddog - pump and impeller pending price
16. Homekegger - pump pending dollars
17. GumbyOne - pump pending price, impeller pending price
18. OLDS2006 - pump & impeller pending price
19. mrpolly - pump & impeller pending price
20. cliff40 - pump and impeller pending price
21. DK - pump and impeller pending price
22. Peteoz77, interested in pump + impeller, depending on price
23. discostu, pump and impeller pending price
24. beerdingo, pump+impeller upgrade, pending price
25. jayandcath, pump+impeller upgrade, pending price
26. Steve - 809 impeller upgrade (price pending)
27. Sammus - 809 impeller upgrade (price pending)
28. QldKev - pump pending price, impeller pending price
29. shanster - pump and impeller pending price
30. balconybrewer - pump and impeller (price pending)
31. shimple - pump and impeller (pending price)
32, GB-Impeller upgrade with fries LOL (Price pending approval)
33. Browndog- possibly an impeller upgrade and a new pump, pending price.
34. Gulpa - pump with impeller (pp)

I'll take that spot!!!

 

[browndog]

So this BB is stalled waiting to hear back from Process Pumps is that right? Sera, you are the guy running this ? What is the situation?

cheers

Browndog

 

[seravitae]

Yes, i'm running the show, and still waiting to hear back from process pumps. I'll try to give Karl a call tomorrow and see what the go is.. I know he's trying to organise some "fair deal" between small retailers and stuff, but this is taking too long for my liking, so i'll ask him if its possible to just clear the goods directly, ASAP...

in the mean time, sorry for the hold up guys, but out of my immediate control as I don't stock the pumps.. ( i want a pump ASAP, just as much as everyone else! )

 

[technocat]

I was reading in this thread that the bulk buy might not go ahead due to Process Pumps not wanting to upset their retail customer base by selling direct. I thought perhaps you could look at killing to birds with one stone.

It is just an option that could be explored, might work out good or it might not, you won't know until you ask.

The way I see it the bulk buy through process pumps is in serious danger of not going ahead.

Replied via PM

 

[jeddog]

i spoke to karl today.

And he told me that the
809 would be $250 + GST
815 would be $270+GST (not the upgrade)

not sure if that the bulk buy price or not (didn't mention it)

not a bad price for the 815.....i think

 

[Dicko ACT]

i spoke to karl today.

And he told me that the
809 would be $250 + GST
815 would be $270+GST (not the upgrade)

not sure if that the bulk buy price or not (didn't mention it)

not a bad price for the 815.....i think

I called Greg Moorhouse (Process Pumps - Company Manager) yesterday and spoke to him about an order for 35 to 40 - 809 or 815 units. FYI - he explained that upgrading the impeller in the 809 (to achieve the increased flow of the 815 unit) actually makes it far more expensive than the 815 unit (your prices would suggest this jeddog). Process pumps have sold 1000+ units of the 809 vs. only 5+ of the 815. Greg was going to give me the quote sometime today... I gave him another call about 1/2 hour ago and he said he "should" be able to give the quote sometime tonight.

Out of interest - wouldn't it be in our best interest as brewers to have a slower flow rate of say 1-2L p/minute opposed to 30L p/minute. I fly-sparge, and if I sparge too quickly the wort channels and therefore my efficiency will be lower. On the flip side, I have broken a submersible pump in the past because I dialled the flow down too low and caused it to overheat. What I didn't realise was the pump needed a certain amount of liquid to pass through it to keep the motor cool. Greg told me that this wasn't as much of a concern with hydronic pumps, however he suggested that a flow rate of less than 1L p/minute could cause damage to the pump (he couldn't give me a definite minimum flow rate - perhaps a brewer can?). He did mention however that you could dial down the 809 more than you could the 815...

Sorry again Sera, I'm not trying to steal your thunder mate... I'm just a pushy bastard who wants his March Pump yesterday!

 

[NickB]

Greg @ Process Pumps would be the best man to talk to. He sorted out my pump order from the last bulk buy after Karl failed to supply my pump to me... (Obviously they are a busy company, and we are little fish in a big pond.......)

Cheers

 

[peas_and_corn]

i spoke to karl today.

And he told me that the
809 would be $250 + GST
815 would be $270+GST (not the upgrade)

not sure if that the bulk buy price or not (didn't mention it)

not a bad price for the 815.....i think

So with GST it's $275 for the 809 and $297 for the 815?

 

[browndog]

So with GST it's $275 for the 809 and $297 for the 815?

+ postage your not going to get much change out of $300.

cheers

Browndog

 

[clean brewer]

****, I would just spend the extra $25 and get 1 from G&G or Beerbelly instead of hanging by a thread on a bulk buy like this, is a 2 week wait with no result so far worth it??? Not sure... Ill just be quiet but I know what I would do....

 

[peas_and_corn]

****, I would just spend the extra $25 and get 1 from G&G or Beerbelly instead of hanging by a thread on a bulk buy like this, is a 2 week wait with no result so far worth it??? Not sure... Ill just be quiet but I know what I would do....

I'm seriously considering just getting it from Beerbelly- great place to go, and I don't need to pay for shipping!

 

[~MikE]

I'm seriously considering just getting it from Beerbelly- great place to go, and I don't need to pay for shipping!

given the non-existent markup i'd probably do the same with the added advantage of advice and having all the bits hooked up properly etc. but that's just me...