Malt Pipes

[Lionman]

As used in the growing number of single vessel breweries that have made it to market, are these devices available separately?

I have seen people have bought and modified pots, but it can be pretty hard to find suitable pots I have found.

There seems ot be a gap in the market for Malt pipes that come in different diameters/capacities.

 

[clickeral]

You can buy the Braumeister ones seperate I know Grain and Grape sell them

 

[Lyrebird_Cycles]

Suitable pots: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-LARGE-25L-STAINLES-STEEL-STOCK-POT-SAUCE-/182429894827

Same seller has other pots with different diameters. I'm currently using one of approx 21l as a malt pipe, about to go to the 35 litre when I expand the system.

 

[Lionman]

You can buy the Braumeister ones seperate I know Grain and Grape sell them

I think they sell shorter versions for doing small batches. They are also inflated BM prices.

Thinking of getting a local fabricator to make some that support some type fo false bottom in standard sizes. Just a bit more elegant than a bag, potentially a bit cheaper than a Robobrew or similar.

 

[Lionman]

Suitable pots: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-LARGE-25L-STAINLES-STEEL-STOCK-POT-SAUCE-/182429894827

Same seller has other pots with different diameters. I'm currently using one of approx 21l as a malt pipe, about to go to the 35 litre when I expand the system.

What pot are you using this with?

 

[Lyrebird_Cycles]

To quote my least favourite politician: Please explain?

If I understand the question correctly, the 35 litre pot has a diameter of 38 cm. I will use it inside a 50 litre stock pot of 40 cm diameter (this one, but not until the seller puts the decimal point in the right place)

 

[SBOB]

What pot are you using this with?

as an example.
I use one of their 25L pots as an 'inner pot' in a 40L birko urn

 

[Lionman]

To quote my least favourite politician: Please explain?

If I understand the question correctly, the 35 litre pot has a diameter of 38 cm. I will use it inside a 50 litre stock pot of 40 cm diameter (this one, but not until the seller puts the decimal point in the right place)

I'm a very caring potato...

I have been eyeing off that sellers pots, and I had already noticed that price was off. I like the idea of a cheaper pot for a malt pipe and a slightly better quality one for a tun/kettle, but it would be better if there were already made options that were a similar price.

Are you planning to just drill the bottom of the smaller pot?

 

[Lyrebird_Cycles]

No, I cut out four quadrants so what is left is an outer collar of about 4 cm width with a cross (also about 4 cm width) in the centre. I then make a false bottom that fits snugly inside, with the help of some silicone tape.

I just realised that thats probably pretty opaque, I'll try to take some pics tomorrow.

 

[rude]

Suitable pots: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-LARGE-25L-STAINLES-STEEL-STOCK-POT-SAUCE-/182429894827

Same seller has other pots with different diameters. I'm currently using one of approx 21l as a malt pipe, about to go to the 35 litre when I expand the system.

I've looked at this pot 29 cm H x 32 cm W 25 Litres so Area x height = 23.3 L ?

Big W 19 L pot is 32 x 32 cm 25.7 L big W pot is tappered so probably less

Is this correct ?

Asking the maths guru of the forum cheers in advanced

 

[malt junkie]

Chystal clear if your used to playing in mud. I drive an old patrol with big chunky tires. So I understood every detail. And I've built a few of these.

 

[Ferg]

I fabricated a malt pipe for my build at work. It was a relatively simple process if you have the equipment. I've attached a screenshot of the drawing that you can alter to suit your needs if you go down that route.

 

[bevan]

I fabricated a malt pipe for my build at work. It was a relatively simple process if you have the equipment. I've attached a screenshot of the drawing that you can alter to suit your needs if you go down that route.

Where do work and what would the cost be for one of those? It looks awesome!

 

[Lionman]

I fabricated a malt pipe for my build at work. It was a relatively simple process if you have the equipment. I've attached a screenshot of the drawing that you can alter to suit your needs if you go down that route.

That is awesome. How much do you think that would cost to get made up? It don't have access to a workshop capable of that.

 

[Jase]

as an example.
I use one of their 25L pots as an 'inner pot' in a 40L birko urn

Any pics SBOB?

I have a 40l urn that I'm considering using, I'm not sure whether to build a single batch or double batch setup.

Cheers,
Jase

 

[woodwormm]

Pretty certain The Robo malt pipe is avail as a spare from kegking, but you may have to ring them to find out

 

[Lionman]

I've looked at this pot 29 cm H x 32 cm W 25 Litres so Area x height = 23.3 L ?

Big W 19 L pot is 32 x 32 cm 25.7 L big W pot is tappered so probably less

Is this correct ?

Asking the maths guru of the forum cheers in advanced

You are right, the big W pot is actually slightly bigger. They quote 19L but this might be the boil volume, not the total volume.

A mate has one he can confirm it's not tapered. He uses it for extract brews and says its pretty good for $20.

 

[Lionman]

To quote my least favourite politician: Please explain?

If I understand the question correctly, the 35 litre pot has a diameter of 38 cm. I will use it inside a 50 litre stock pot of 40 cm diameter (this one, but not until the seller puts the decimal point in the right place)

I contacted that seller, they are getting stock back in March for that size. It will be $129.90+$25 postage.

I might get a 33L one which should be big enough for 20l batches.

 

[malt junkie]

I contacted that seller, they are getting stock back in March for that size. It will be $129.90+$25 postage.

I might get a 33L one which should be big enough for 20l batches.

and double batches to about 1045/50

 

[Aydos]

I fabricated a malt pipe for my build at work. It was a relatively simple process if you have the equipment. I've attached a screenshot of the drawing that you can alter to suit your needs if you go down that route.

That's really well done, did you roll the rib before you rolled the pot or afterwards? Also did you do the same with the top lip?

I'm doing the same at the moment building my own braumeister clone.

Cheers

 

[Lionman]

and double batches to about 1045/50

May as well drink water h34r:

 

[Lionman]

I ordered one of these

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Oztrail-40-L-Aluminium-Stockpot-Deep-Basket-Camping-Outdoor-Picnic-/252363048100?hash=item3ac20284a4:g:ff4AAOSw2xRYXLBk

with code CSPORT20

came out at around $80 for a 40l pot with a basket.

Will mod the basket with some alimesh and pop rivets to keep grain in.

Add a ball valve too fo easy draining.

 

[DigitalGiraffe]

Not sure if this is the right thread to post this in but has anyone purchased one of these? The price seems very reasonable. I'm not sure the legs would clear my element but thats a minor issue.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Stainless-Steel-Beer-Wine-House-Home-Brew-Filter-Basket-Strainer-Hip-Spider-Cylinder/32774692137.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.45.tDPaHg&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10000073_10000077_10000074_10000167_10000175_10000069_10000068_10000062_10000063_10099_10000156_10000158_10096_10000056_10000059_10000097_10000094_10000090_10000091_10000147_10000144_10084_10000150_10083_10119_10000011_10080_10000153_10082_10081_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_10000089_10000086_10000083_10000135_10000080_10078_10079_10077_10073_10070_10000140_10122_10123_10120_10121_10126_10124_10065_10068_10000132_10000033_119_10000030_10000126_10000026_10000129_10000023_10000123_432_10060_10062_10056_10055_10054_301_10059_10000120_10000020_10000117_10000013_10103_10102_10000114_10000016_10000111_10052_10053_10050_10107_10051_10106_10000101_10000100_10000104_10000045_10000108_10000191_10000197_10000179_10000042_10000039_10000036_10000187-10051_10111_10120,searchweb201603_3,afswitch_1_afChannel,ppcSwitch_5,single_sort_3_default&btsid=15b8622c-577d-439a-bc5b-ca7e0dfb29fd&algo_expid=8490d66e-9687-4786-8620-b2724e8b1606-5&algo_pvid=8490d66e-9687-4786-8620-b2724e8b1606

 

[Ferg]

Errmm sorry I missed all these replies. It cost me a slab of Teds but in reality I reckon you should be able to get one for about $100. I would be trying to get it done as a cash job though so calling into somewhere and speaking face to face.
The flat pattern was cut out on a guillotine, rolled and welded. The rib and top lip were then rolled using a swage roller, after that the studs were welded using a stud welder. All up about an hours worth of work.
A bribe of a return with some beer might also help your case.

Where do work and what would the cost be for one of those? It looks awesome!

That is awesome. How much do you think that would cost to get made up? It don't have access to a workshop capable of that.

That's really well done, did you roll the rib before you rolled the pot or afterwards? Also did you do the same with the top lip?

I'm doing the same at the moment building my own braumeister clone.

Cheers

 

[Lionman]

a slab of Teds

At least it's good something!

I ended up getting a crab cooker as it was on sale on ebay so will go with that for a bit. Might further investigate a custom malt pipe at some stage.

 

[nosco]

Not sure if this is the right thread to post this in but has anyone purchased one of these? The price seems very reasonable. I'm not sure the legs would clear my element but thats a minor issue.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Stainless-Steel-Beer-Wine-House-Home-Brew-Filter-Basket-Strainer-Hip-Spider-Cylinder/32774692137.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.45.tDPaHg&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10000073_10000077_10000074_10000167_10000175_10000069_10000068_10000062_10000063_10099_10000156_10000158_10096_10000056_10000059_10000097_10000094_10000090_10000091_10000147_10000144_10084_10000150_10083_10119_10000011_10080_10000153_10082_10081_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_10000089_10000086_10000083_10000135_10000080_10078_10079_10077_10073_10070_10000140_10122_10123_10120_10121_10126_10124_10065_10068_10000132_10000033_119_10000030_10000126_10000026_10000129_10000023_10000123_432_10060_10062_10056_10055_10054_301_10059_10000120_10000020_10000117_10000013_10103_10102_10000114_10000016_10000111_10052_10053_10050_10107_10051_10106_10000101_10000100_10000104_10000045_10000108_10000191_10000197_10000179_10000042_10000039_10000036_10000187-10051_10111_10120,searchweb201603_3,afswitch_1_afChannel,ppcSwitch_5,single_sort_3_default&btsid=15b8622c-577d-439a-bc5b-ca7e0dfb29fd&algo_expid=8490d66e-9687-4786-8620-b2724e8b1606-5&algo_pvid=8490d66e-9687-4786-8620-b2724e8b1606

Ive seen these on Ali and it does look good but im thinking that it's basically a stainless brew bag for biab which is still very cool. Im still a way off upgrading to a malt pipe but the benefit of a malt pipe that only drains through the bottom is that you get the filtration through the grain bed similar to a 3v mash. With biab the bulk of the liquid can drain straight out the sides and bypass the grains. Am i correct in my thinking?

 

[fdsaasdf]

Ive seen these on Ali and it does look good but im thinking that it's basically a stainless brew bag for biab which is still very cool. Im still a way off upgrading to a malt pipe but the benefit of a malt pipe that only drains through the bottom is that you get the filtration through the grain bed similar to a 3v mash. With biab the bulk of the liquid can drain straight out the sides and bypass the grains. Am i correct in my thinking?

Yes, malt pipes drain through the bottom only to allow the liquid to pass through the entire grain bed to increase efficiency and produce a better filter, especially when coupled with recirculation.

I modified a cheap 56L pot for my malt pipe by grinding slots in the bottom in separate 4 quadrants.

 

[JB]

No, I cut out four quadrants so what is left is an outer collar of about 4 cm width with a cross (also about 4 cm width) in the centre. I then make a false bottom that fits snugly inside, with the help of some silicone tape.

I just realised that thats probably pretty opaque, I'll try to take some pics tomorrow.

I modified a cheap 56L pot for my malt pipe by grinding slots in the bottom in separate 4 quadrants.

Could I please trouble you both with a few pics? I'm planning mine, have all the bits, just need to plan out prior to build.

 

[technobabble66]

And is it better to cut slots or drill holes?
(I may be looking at converting a cheap SS pot for my birko in the near/distant future...)

I appreciate drilling steel can be a little slippery but I can probably get around that if it's better for the process overall.

Edit: & @ LC, why do the quadrant cutout with separate drop-in false bottom? Isn't that just producing more fiddly stuff to clean, or did you accidentally slip cutting your slots and then decide "actually I think I'll just cut out quadrants and drop in the base screen"? [emoji6]

 

[JB]

And is it better to cut slots or drill holes?
(I may be looking at converting a cheap SS pot for my birko in the near/distant future...)
I appreciate drilling steel can be a little slippery but I can probably get around that if it's better for the process overall.
Edit: & @ LC, why do the quadrant cutout with separate drop-in false bottom? Isn't that just producing more fiddly stuff to clean, or did you accidentally slip cutting your slots and then decide "actually I think I'll just cut out quadrants and drop in the base screen"? [emoji6]

Hi TB, I've also got the cheap ss pot. I think cutting out the quadrant or wedges would add strength & support for the mesh screen. With recirculating & due to the pot being thin, i think will need it.