Making My Dunkel More Dunkel?

[mje1980]

I will be making a dunkel next, and i want it to be a nice dark brown colour. However, i do not want any roasty flavours that would come by putting too much carafa 1 in. How can i darken it without the roasty flavours??. Here is my recipe based on what malts i have at the moment

80.3% Light munich
10.9% Aus pils
5.5% dark munich
1.8% Cara aroma
1.5% Carafa 1

In beertools this comes out as 16 SRM, whereas the style can go up to 28. I do have some pale choc and caramunich, but am not sure if the choc will give roasty flavours if i add say 100g ?. And could i sub the pils with some caramunich??

Any ideas?? ( Dunkel boy??, anyone ?? ). The colour i spose isnt too important, but it would be nice to get it a bit darker.

 

[Jovial_Monk]

More dark, less light Munich?

50g choc malt will darken it a bit w/o adding much flavor.

Dare I say, longer boil? 2 hours say?

Jovial Monk

 

[neonmeate]

I will be making a dunkel next, and i want it to be a nice dark brown colour. However, i do not want any roasty flavours that would come by putting too much carafa 1 in. How can i darken it without the roasty flavours??. Here is my recipe based on what malts i have at the moment

80.3% Light munich
10.9% Aus pils
5.5% dark munich
1.8% Cara aroma
1.5% Carafa 1

In beertools this comes out as 16 SRM, whereas the style can go up to 28. I do have some pale choc and caramunich, but am not sure if the choc will give roasty flavours if i add say 100g ?. And could i sub the pils with some caramunich??

Any ideas?? ( Dunkel boy??, anyone ?? ). The colour i spose isnt too important, but it would be nice to get it a bit darker.

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i say shove in 50g of carafa III, that will make a difference to your colour, while being pretty undetectable flavourwise

or you could try doing an all dark munich base?

 

[Dunkel_Boy]

You can boost the percentage of dark munich and carafa1 in equal amounts if you like to bring down your light munich. You can even boost dark munich a bit more than carafa1. Pale choc is very very similar to carafa1. Carafa3 isn't a bad idea at all, and again I'd probably boost dark munich if you really don't want any roastiness... possibly 3:1 ratio up to about 50-100g.

 

[Jovial_Monk]

Really, these dark lagers are best brewed with no roasted malt but with a longer boil (dons flame suit)

Use say 40% dark Munich

JM

 

[Dunkel_Boy]

20-24 is a good place to aim for, it will still give you lovely red tones.
Do what you think... 40% dark munich, or do a longer boil, or go 20% dark munich, 3.5% carafa1, 3.5% cara-aroma, 10% aussie pils and 63% munich. There, no worries. Trust me, the dark munich and cara-aroma will definitely offset the carafa1.

 

[Barry]

Good Day
I have made a few based on the same basic recipe and it can be found at the following if you are interested;

oz.craftbrewer.org/Recipes/

Look under Dark Lagers.

 

[warrenlw63]

If you're contemplating a Dunkel this is a pretty good article, gives several good tips.

Munich Dunkel

Warren -

 

[mje1980]

thanks for all replies fella's. I have "tweaked" a bit, and here it is.

77.5% ( 4.4kg ) Light munich
17.6% ( 1kg ) Dark munich
2.6% ( .150g ) Cara aroma
2.3% ( .130g ) Carafa 1.

This brings it up to 18.5 srm from 16, so its made a difference. I will probably leave it at that, and see how it goes. Something tells me that this will be my new "house lager". i love this stuff!!, cant wait to get back to the German club for some more........mmmmmmmmmm......... :chug:

P.S, this means im gunna have to get my arse into gear and drink the north german pils thats in the keg, what a horrible shame hahahahahah

 

[Dunkel_Boy]

thanks for all replies fella's. I have "tweaked" a bit, and here it is.

77.5% ( 4.4kg ) Light munich
17.6% ( 1kg ) Dark munich
2.6% ( .150g ) Cara aroma
2.3% ( .130g ) Carafa 1.

This brings it up to 18.5 srm from 16, so its made a difference. I will probably leave it at that, and see how it goes. Something tells me that this will be my new "house lager". i love this stuff!!, cant wait to get back to the German club for some more........mmmmmmmmmm......... :chug:

P.S, this means im gunna have to get my arse into gear and drink the north german pils thats in the keg, what a horrible shame hahahahahah

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Mate if you ever need someone to 'take the bullets' with you, when push comes to shove, I can put in the hard yards and get rid of that beer for you. It's difficult, and you will owe me a few favours, but I'm the man for the job.