Least Favourite Hop?

[gaijin]

I can't believe only neonmate has mentioned Pacific Gem. That **** is like eating IBU100 hopberry jam. Very unpleasant/harsh blackberry flavour.

Also, if you hate galaxy, you hate S&W pacific ale. That said, it has very harsh bittering with heavy pre-45min additions.

 

[Batz]

Some good old Aussies here.

Well done guys.

Batz

 

[neonmeate]

yeah not a fan of s&w pacific... although many other people are, that's fine by me. pacific jam. or should i say toejam.

the more i brew the less i am able to come up with reasons to use anything other than saaz... it's the king.

 

[neonmeate]

cultural cringe you think batz?

 

[Helles]

Golding horrible horrible floral flavour i hate

 

[mckenry]

It took me years to retry POR after making a beer with it and it tasting like river water. I used it late though. I have just knocked out an Aust Pale Ale using POR at 60 only. Its a really good beer. So, POR is back for me. I have tasted Citra in a mates AG and I didnt like it and I've made a late hopped APA with NS and the sauv was just a bit too much for me.
Probably stating what others have said as I didnt read the whole 5 pages, bit I reckon every hop has its 'right' use. For me, now, POR is bittering only and NS probably need restraint late. Same lesson I learnt with Galaxy.
I dont want to get O.T. but I'm finding late hopping with some high AA Americans is paying dividends! Bravo is doing it for me right now.

 

[sponge]

Thou doth sin! Heretic!

One of my best beers is made with only Saaz..

But its not the greatest for dry hoping. As many have found out.

I think he was joking.....lol.

Yup, definitely joking about citra, styrians and saaz.

They're 3 of my favourite hops in APAs, bitters/milds and lagers, respectively.

God I could go a pint of a styrian bitter right now. A bit of marmalade in a nice warm beer would be lurvely for a cold morn'.

Looks like I know what is next on the to-brew list.

 

[Midnight Brew]

It really is one of those "not the size but how you use it" things. Havn't come across a hop I dislike completely.

Willamette: Hated it in a pale I made, drinking it in a porter as a large flavour addition and a wonderful addition it is.
Saaz: Dry hopped was very unpleasant. In a Weizen on its own, delicious.
Citra: Sometimes I get a beautiful tropical flavour, other times I get a pleasant wood character. Fan of both.
Cascade: Always loved it but never got that grapefruit flavour.
Cluster: Made an Australian Ale with it and coopers yeast and was quiet similar to carlton draught. The old man loved it.

 

[Dave70]

Gota say....never experienced any of those flavours in any hops I have used....

Cock ale?


Yuck. Keep you poultry out of my beer. And your cock.

 

[DJ_L3ThAL]

I don't know enough and haven't tasted enough to dislike a hop yet. Sounds like I need to do a 500g 60min galaxy addition in my next saison...

 

[MCHammo]

I have done 2 with NS- both variations of a FY clone. First one was great second one that I tinkered with the schedule- 3 year old bottle of chardony. I still have 70g of NS in the freezer and to scared to use it again.

This. Exactly this. First time was great, second time was awful (bitter white wine, anyone?). That half packet of NS has been sitting in the freezer for at least 6 months now.

 

[Will88]

Sorachi Ace does taste like ants.

 

[bradsbrew]

Sorachi Ace does taste like ants.

Brussel sprouts taste like yellow!

 

[wereprawn]

Brussel sprouts taste like yellow!

********. They only sound like yellow.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Brussel sprouts taste like yellow!

There pretty good if steamed and served with butter & cracked pepper

 

[fattox]

Any noble varieties unless they're a bittering addition, like in my stouts and so on. Last bo pils was early chinook late saaz and was hop forward but it just tasted like hops, no real flavour.

I'm also of the opinion PoR can be a good hop with proper utilisation.

As with belma - it was well balanced in Hassle Hop IMO with other hops

 

[fattox]

If used well Nelson Sauvin is a great hop! I did the regal pale on big brew day and it was well balanced with cascade, whereas a friend dry hopped hers only with nelson and it was equally good

 

[manticle]

You like nelson but dislike hallertauer, spalt, tettnanger and saaz?
Begone.

 

[mje1980]

I don't know enough and haven't tasted enough to dislike a hop yet. Sounds like I need to do a 500g 60min galaxy addition in my next saison...

Age it a few years it'll probably be great

 

[Not For Horses]

I don't know enough and haven't tasted enough to dislike a hop yet. Sounds like I need to do a 500g 60min galaxy addition in my next saison...

One of the guys in our brew club did a 9% Imperial Wit with 3711 and a late galaxy addition. It won the last beerfest brew comp.

 

[Weizguy]

Cock ale?


Yuck. Keep you poultry out of my beer. And your cock.

C'mon, just a little stir? You won't taste it in the Berliner Sauer Weisse anyway

re hops, I have these comments:

Saaz haters - Try a fresh Budvar/Budweiser. Still my #1 fave beer, but only when fresh
Chinook haters - Obtain or brew yourself an Arrogant bastard ale (or clone). Learn to appreciate the burn.
POR and Saaz - what a great combo, as used in my Fave Aussie weizen - the Matilda Bay Redback wheat beer.
Sorachi Ace - I can take it or leave it, but it has a buttery, not quite lemony (maybe lemon butter with ants?) flavour, which I tasted in a few beers at last year's Nationals (AABC) and did not enjoy.
Fat Yak - meh
Millers Genuine Draft - nice banana character, from the yeast, if you like that sort of thing

Pet hate: - Norther Brewer: Just don't like that slight piney woody (pine bark?) character, and no idea why you would DEliberately ruin a beer with it. (I believe that Oettinger have been using it a a flavour hop. Go back to using Hallertau,.. please.)

 

[mrsupraboy]

It would have to be the one they sell at woolies or big w. It's some type of tablet I think it might even be a mixture of a few

 

[Ross]

Dont blame POR on megaswill.....that is an isohop in mega swill that no one at home can reproduce.

A hop that has let me down big time is Artahmon (sp) I think it is neither fruity or full on dirt flavour ( like Fuggle)
I will never use it again.

Dicko, If you ever get down to Brizzy, pop into our brewery and try the Ahtanum IPA, it's a single hopped English style IPA that's a firm favourite with every one here. Beautiful fruity orange marmalade character.

In my humble opinion there isn't a bad hop out there (from reputable sources that is). It's a case of learning how to use the hop & getting the most from it...


Cheers Ross

 

[dicko]

Dicko, If you ever get down to Brizzy, pop into our brewery and try the Ahtanum IPA, it's a single hopped English style IPA that's a firm favourite with every one here. Beautiful fruity orange marmalade character.

In my humble opinion there isn't a bad hop out there (from reputable sources that is). It's a case of learning how to use the hop & getting the most from it...


Cheers Ross

Ross, I will take you up on that mate....well, at least it is on my to do list.

 

[menoetes]

It would have to be the one they sell at woolies or big w. It's some type of tablet I think it might even be a mixture of a few

Is that those Brigalow finishing hop tablets they sell? I've seen them at my Big W and wondered what was in them. From memory the packet isn't enlightening either as to the contents of the tablet. Maybe it's the sweepings off of the hop warehouse floor?

I've never been curious or desperate enough to buy or use them though. Adding an unknown hop to my beer just doesn't seem like a good idea.

 

[manticle]

It's hop oils in tablet form designed to help head retention. No flavour or bitterness.

 

[DU99]

Nothing mentioned about Chinese Hops

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

In my humble opinion there isn't a bad hop out there (from reputable sources that is). It's a case of learning how to use the hop & getting the most from it...


Cheers Ross

So true.

I think a lot of brewers just look at the AA% and retailer descriptions first, which is a shame, as going purely on that will give you the the wrong outcome.

With hops, sometimes a case of less is more.

 

[Three Sheets]

I'll say Fuggles (TBC in a fortnight). I have been tentative with POR due to adverse publicity but so far have found it ok.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

POR due to adverse publicity but so far have found it ok.

Gotta love " I used it and it was ****" ....seems to be the internet publicity rule.

God help NS.