Kegs becoming scarce

[Pugdog1]

Supposably the shortage is so bad kegking can't stock them anymore

 

[Smokomark]

Yep. Been in short supply for a year or two now. Quality seems to be getting worse also.

 

[Pugdog1]

I guess there are just to many homebrewers kegging these days.

On the bright side keg king offers a good middle range for new kegs before the Italian ones

 

[manticle]

I need a few fixed up. Any recommendations? All ball lock, different types and different issues. Need someone to assess and repair or recommend avenue of repair.

Could turn them into ss fermenters with a ball valve but if they are becoming rare, I'd rather hang onto them.

 

[Mardoo]

I would think they will only become more scarce. Post-mix soda syrup comes in plastic bladders packed cardboard now. What else have cornets been used for historically?

 

[Pugdog1]

I need a few fixed up. Any recommendations? All ball lock, different types and different issues. Need someone to assess and repair or recommend avenue of repair.

Could turn them into ss fermenters with a ball valve but if they are becoming rare, I'd rather hang onto them.

Depending on what is wrong with them I doubt they are worth repairing, if you had to pay anyone the labour alone would probably cost you more then the keg. If it's a diy job it could be worth doing

 

[Pugdog1]

Mardoo your right probably getting more scare because like you said now they're coming in the boxes and the only ones floating around are probably wearing down more every day. And some just get broken by accident

 

[manticle]

Depending on what is wrong with them I doubt they are worth repairing, if you had to pay anyone the labour alone would probably cost you more then the keg. If it's a diy job it could be worth doing

Leaky posts, etc. Tried replacing various bits so might be kegs rather than accessories. Worth the extra cash to do if I simply can't get them any more.

 

[MaltyHops]

I think this thread is a bit unnecessarily alarmist (wow! I'm a climate keg denier :lol

It is just the used, secondhand cornys that are becoming scarce - exactly the same kegs new (Italian AEB) are about $40 more than the secondhand ones.

 

[Pugdog1]

I think this thread is a bit unnecessarily alarmist (wow! I'm a climate keg denier :lol

It is just the used, secondhand cornys that are becoming scarce - exactly the same kegs new (Italian AEB) are about $40 more than the secondhand ones.

True the topic title does mislead a bit haha.

I thought the Italians were around the 200 mark? I had second hands for around 40-100 depending on luck

 

[Florian]

Leaky posts, etc. Tried replacing various bits so might be kegs rather than accessories. Worth the extra cash to do if I simply can't get them any more.

A new o-ring around the diptube (make sure it's lubricated) usually fixes it, if it's leaking out the top then a new poppet seal, again, lubricate.

Oh, and of course the o-ring around the post on the outside if it's leaking with a disconnect on, that's usually the main culprit. Try a few different models (thicknesses, different retailers might have different ones) and again, make sure it's well lubricated. This has fixed every leaking post I ever had.

 

[Pugdog1]

Just checked 185. Still that's better then I originally thought as when I checked ages ago they were 250 on the site I looked at

 

[MaltyHops]

True the topic title does mislead a bit haha.

I thought the Italians were around the 200 mark? I had second hands for around 40-100 depending on luck

19lt Ball Lock Post Mix Keg Brand New AU$119.95

Not counting postage, I guess.


Ed. And I guess price of these could well go up once secondhand ones are no longer available.

 

[Topher]

What else have cornets been used for historically?

A cornet is basically the same as a trumpet, but with a mellower sound.... but not quite as mellow as a flugelhorn. But that's not important right now.

Didn't someone say on here a while ago that there would be heaps of used kegs coming out of China soon?

 

[Pugdog1]

19lt Ball Lock Post Mix Keg Brand New AU$119.95

Not counting postage, I guess.


Ed. And I guess price of these could well go up once secondhand ones are no longer available.

Are you sure those aren't kegkings new ones as that's exactly the same price as his and that site doesn't say they're made in Italy or anything. Which is normally a big selling point for aeb ones.

Not saying yours is wrong just curious as that's a really good price

 

[Pugdog1]

Picture for reference

 

[MaltyHops]

Are you sure those aren't kegkings new ones as that's exactly the same price as his and that site doesn't say they're made in Italy or anything. Which is normally a big selling point for aeb ones.

Not saying yours is wrong just curious as that's a really good price

I'm pretty sure I spoke with Amanda from BB about those ones being AEB ones (I wouldn't stake my life on not being wrong about this though )

I got a new 9L AEB keg from a winemaking supplier here in Adelaide for $110 last year (?) and a 9L is not that much different to a 19L really, just a bit more sheet metal.


Ed. attached is my 9L AEB

 

[tateg]

I think the new keg king kegs were like 80 a pop in a BB last year

 

[Pugdog1]

That is a good price then. That's even comparable to some prices I've seen for second hand ones.

Yea I saw that bulk buy, straight from the dealer so he would of given a price a bit above the wholesale price so he made a bit of extra $$ rather than everyone buying it from a home brew shop, either way he wins, kegking guy must be a decent fella though he always lets people on this forum do bb's

 

[Bribie G]

My kegs were made in West Germany.

 

[manticle]

A new o-ring around the diptube (make sure it's lubricated) usually fixes it, if it's leaking out the top then a new poppet seal, again, lubricate.

Oh, and of course the o-ring around the post on the outside if it's leaking with a disconnect on, that's usually the main culprit. Try a few different models (thicknesses, different retailers might have different ones) and again, make sure it's well lubricated. This has fixed every leaking post I ever had.

Cheers florian. I'll have a concerted crack at fixing them all up.

 

[Camo6]

Cheers florian. I'll have a concerted crack at fixing them all up.

Manticle, did you ever fix the bung thread on one of your cornie posts? (Apologies if this wasn't you).
Got one with a similar issue and not sure whether to bother sourcing a decent die up to the job.

 

[manticle]

Yonks ago I had an issue with a thread but I think it was me, early on in my kegging career (still early now) trying to fit a gas post on a liquid out or something equally embarassing.

 

[Camo6]

Cheers, mines been whacked on the thread and only goes on a couple of turns. Might just keep it for line cleaning me thinks.

 

[Spiesy]

Nothing wrong with the new Keg King Stainless 19L kegs. I've got a couple myself.

If you're worried, they come with a 5-year warranty - which should speak volumes (no pun intended).

 

[sp0rk]

A cornet is basically the same as a trumpet, but with a mellower sound.... but not quite as mellow as a flugelhorn. But that's not important right now.

Didn't someone say on here a while ago that there would be heaps of used kegs coming out of China soon?

I said this a while ago
There's still loads of them for sale on alibaba, but I think the price point is a bit too high to make importing them profitable

 

[Drew]

But that's not important right now.

Flying High .

 

[Camo6]

Flying High .

What is it?

 

[Cervantes]

Cheers, mines been whacked on the thread and only goes on a couple of turns. Might just keep it for line cleaning me thinks.

New posts are readily available on eBay...............

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/19-32-18-Cornelius-Type-keg-Ball-Lock-Post-Poppet-Female-Thread-Gas-liquid-1-/291011073492?pt=AU_Barware&hash=item43c19c95d4

 

[Camo6]

Nah, it's the threaded section welded to the keg that's damaged.