next few brews I want to cut down on my trub a little would like to get the current 5l loss down to 2 or 3 . those extra few long necks each batch help tide me over to next brew day , which with 2nd baby coming in a few months are gonna get more scarce I use a 50 liter pot with a tap for BIAB full volume mash not sure if I should go for one of these that hangs on the edge of the pot https://beerco.com.au/products/hop-spider or one of these tubes that can submerge https://www.kegland.com.au/stainless-steel-hop-tube.html I like the idea of the spider better as I don't have to keep pulling it out with every addition . but its 35cm long so when its hanging on side of pot , once I boil only bottom half of it will be submerged, while the hop tube will be fully submerged.But with the tube I have to pull the boiling hot sucker out to add hops every addition . feel like that could suck or I could just get 5 or 6 of these https://www.keg-king.com.au/catalog...mb-70mm-diameter-with-40cm-chain/category/35/ anyone use any of these things . worth it or just stick to my current loss ?