dunno about you blokes :blink:
are you chasing cheap beer additives or quality at any given price.i will always support any hbs that has quality (i will pay the price no worries)and advice which by the way doesnt cost anything.try getting that from your local gp or lawyer.
personally i reckon most hbs charge too little in this day and age. the company i work for is into negotiations for its third eba and are talking about 3 x 5 % wage increases.eg 15% over three years.
imagine the local hbs doing that every year.my weekly wages will boom so will the revenue to the tax man.poor hbs owner will still be trying to get more customers by under selling his hops etc to gain more turn over.
anyway my point is dont always chase the marginally cheaper product just support the fact that your hbs even has the products that we want no matter what the price.
he/she has to make a living as well as us.
mmmm i think i have said enough
anyway cheers all
i will support any good home brew shop and i use three in adelaide i have been using of late Jovial monk and brewmaker and sometimes grumpies nad found all to be good as monk is closer than grumpies and his products are good i will him tooo and he has given good advice just as grumpies have so its choice on money and location but as dig d grumpies have been goood to so i see why you dont mind paying the extra but as newbee im loooking for the best deal and advice and jm is closer than the grumpy ones
No worries bigD. Will keep you posted unless they go toes up on me in which case I won't say a word.
I have gone with Pride of Ringwood on the recommendation of grumpy Thomas who says that his backyard-grown POR are lovely in dark ales and stouts for aroma and flavour. He doesn't use his own POR for bittering - too unpredictable alpha levels. He scoffs at those who scoff at POR. He also says POR will grow pretty well anywhere in Australia (maybe not YOUR backyard).
I have skipped the Hallertau and Tettnanger because I don't really like lagers much. My favourite drinking beers are dark ales, strong ales, stouts and porters and not much call for those hops in those beers.
Will start preparing the bed this weekend. Getting kinda excited.
GSRman: you have got it sussed. I remember the big thrill I got as a teenager when I caught a fish on a lure I made in My Dad's Back Shed. Same when I eat my own grown vegies. Same when I make my own beer. Probably moreso when I brew my own beer with my own hops.
I'm sure they are available elsewhere but it's not easy. I went through the yellow pages and rang about 50% of the nurseries in there. All said they didn't have it. A few said they would ask their suppliers and call me back. Noone called back.
I rang the Agriculture Dept. They called me back after a week and said they didn't know of any suppliers. I rang two national seed suppliers and they didn't have it. I put out other feelers including asking jovial monk for mail order details but no one seemed interested to help out.
I especially like the business that works hard to get my business and i would like to add...then works harder to keep it..
I have never had any problems dealing with grumpys.
They are forthright, honest and up front with their customer relations.
I have just placed a $600.00 order with them - including my Rubbermaid Water Cooler.
I gave the details of Kookaburra gas - told them the prices i was quoted - told them that i was prepared to pay - 150.00 for a 10 gallon one.
One week later, they organised an account with Kookaburra, ordered my Rubbermaid, priced it at 150.00 and my order should have been despatched yesterday - providing Kookaburra has delivered the water cooler.
Thats what i call working hard for my business...
They now have Rubbermaids on sale for 150.00.
We all win. Price isn't everything - customers should put a value on effort and service.
I too will now get off my soap box...and have a :chug:
I like to pay for service if the price is ok. eg if there for sale some where else for $10 and they also serve then well i'll save the cash.
Mind you i have not had a responce about anywhere else so i may end up getting the hops from Grumpys (I never had anything againt grumpys just wanted to check price and see if there was anywhere else doing it)