hmmm Starsan

[woodwormm]

So much for Starsan being safe on all metals (which is the impression I was under)

I know its an Ally pot, but I was hoping to get away with it for a while, and thought Starsan and PBW were my friends

 

[Smokomark]

I've had rain water do that to an ally pot here in Brisbane. Clean it up and keep on using it.

 

[GalBrew]

It does say on the spec sheet, not to use it on soft metals.

Sorry about the pot.

 

[MartinOC]

With all harsh chemicals & soft metals (esp. aluminium), a quick game is a good game.

Did you learn anything from the experience that you can pass-on to new-players?

 

[jaypes]

No good mate

I dont sanitise my al pot, just give it a good clean with a little PSR and a good rinse in hot water

 

[slcmorro]

Futile sanitising the pot if you're boiling liquid anyways is there? I mean a quick spray with a Starsan solution to be careful, but that's about all it needs right?

 

[woodwormm]

It wasnt a soak, as I'm aware it's a kettle and the boil kills all.. however there was a bit of gunk and scum around the pot which I assumed to be general shed dirt and maybe chinese machine oil from manufacture, I had a spray bottle of starsan nearby and gave it a squirt, must've forgotten I'd done it and left it overnight.

not too worried, just not as pretty anymore..

 

[slcmorro]

$19 for a 19L pot from BigW. If it's more than aesthetic, pretty cheap to replace

 

[woodwormm]

$19 for a 19L pot from BigW. If it's more than aesthetic, pretty cheap to replace

pity Big Dubbs don't do 100L pots.

ugly on the inside I can handle, I'm sure it's going to look sexy in the glass in 3 weeks

 

[slcmorro]

Wow. That's a 100L pot? Not so easy to replace I'm guessing!

Hopefully it won't add any nasties to the next boil.

 

[woodwormm]

Wow. That's a 100L pot? Not so easy to replace I'm guessing!

Hopefully it won't add any nasties to the next boil.

i'm rounding a little, i gave up measuring at 96L, it was dammned close to the top.

i'm hopeful it's no drama

 

[slcmorro]

Scrub the **** out of it? I'm no expert by any means. Not even sure if it's a problem really.

 

[BeerNess]

Just listened to a podcast from Beersmith guy interviewing the owner of Five Star chemicals and he said definitely do not use PBW or Starsan on Aluminium ever.

Also once you get that black tarnish on Aluminium it's not food safe anymore or it will react badly with acidic wort, something like that.

 

[Florian]

And never use PBW on your teflon coated pans, unless you want to get rid of the teflon coating.

 

[treefiddy]

And never use PBW on your teflon coated pans, unless you want to get rid of the teflon coating.

PBW is a non caustic cleaner. It should be fine on aluminium copper and Teflon.

 

[Mardoo]

PBW is a non caustic cleaner. It should be fine on aluminium copper and Teflon.

Actually the maker of PBW said not to use it on Teflon in the Brewstrong sanitizing podcast. It'll remove the Teflon.

 

[BeerNess]

Please listen to this podcast, it's not long, a bit dry but it is informative, or find the Brew Strong Mardoo is referring to.

http://beersmith.com/blog/2013/08/02/beer-cleaning-and-sanitation-with-jon-herskovits-beersmith-podcast-62/

Aluminium and most cleaning/sanitising chemicals is bad together. Five Star products and Teflon will remove the Teflon.

 

[carniebrew]

There's an article on Beersmith about alum vs ss pots. It mentions not to use oxygen-based or caustic cleaners on your alum pots:
http://beersmith.com/blog/2010/08/17/aluminum-vs-stainless-best-beer-brewing-pots/

I assume that includes Sodium Percarbonate, e.g. napisan/disan?

 

[treefiddy]

Actually the maker of PBW said not to use it on Teflon in the Brewstrong sanitizing podcast. It'll remove the Teflon.

I will concede that PBW could damage a Teflon coated surface (although I'm not sure why you would need to clean a non-stick pan for instance).

Under normal usage conditions (short contact time) PBW should not damage aluminium or Teflon tape.

http://www.fivestarchemicals.com/wp-content/uploads/PBWTech.pdf

Because of its unique formulation of buffers and mild alkalis, it is safe on skin as well as soft metals such as stainless steel, aluminum, and on plastics.

 

[Florian]

PBW is a non caustic cleaner. It should be fine on aluminium copper and Teflon.

just have a look at the packaging, it actually says it on the container.

But, just like you, i didn't see this until it was too late.