Hilary or Donald

[Brownsworthy]

There won't be any change he won't make America great again he will be another republican puppet...I hope.

 

[user 31093]

There won't be any change he won't make America great again he will be another republican puppet...I hope.

I'd be inclined to disagree, I think there'll be big changes...

Whether they're good or bad, we'll have to wait and see............. h34r: h34r:

 

[technobabble66]

Oh. And it's always worth remembering over the next 4-8 years that if it wasn't for Comey and his announced investigation last week, Hillary most likely would've won - it shifted the polls by ~10 points within a day, and Trump only won by a margin of a few points in most key states.

Interesting how the election may've been decided by the actions of one man. Totally not dubious.

Or you could point the finger a that guy Weiner, and his weiner. Amazing how much his penchant for showing off his weiner has poisoned the lives of those around him and may've condemned America to a terrible fate.
... Or his wife who really should've kicked him to the gutter years ago. Can you imagine how bad she must be feeling now! Maybe that's a lesson for everyone (esp the girls) out there: don't put up with ******** partners, you never know how dire the consequences of sticking by and putting up with them may one day be! (That's def not to blame her, by the way. More just pointing out how terrible she's probably feeling for not ditching the guy that might've cost Hillary the presidency)

 

[sunovagun]

Hillary is easily the most corrupt politician seen in many decades. The shadows hanging over her were way too much for many voters. Yet MSM and her plethora of financial backers did everything in its power to get her over the line.

Trump on the other hand won the presidency when the whole establishment, his own party, the MSM, amongst others were all against him. A great achievement really.

 

[Liam_snorkel]

she shouldn't have rigged the primaries h34r:

 

[yankinoz]

At the statistical analysis website 538.org, Andrew Flowers posted a map yesterday that I would link, but today 365 seems to have buried it under an avalanche of post-election commentary.

There were two maps of electoral districts, one showing the percentage of jobs lost to China (according to one econometric analysis), the other the Trump vote. The association is very strong if you disregard states like Alabama and West Virginia that are too deeply Republican for any pattern to be discernible. But Trump is only part of the reaction to globalisation.

Love today's interviews. Pauline Hanson's joy is unbounded. Malcolm T said all the proper things despite the sutures and steam revealing where his head was exploding.

 

[yankinoz]

Hillary is easily the most corrupt politician seen in many decades. The shadows hanging over her were way too much for many voters. Yet MSM and her plethora of financial backers did everything in its power to get her over the line.

Trump on the other hand won the presidency when the whole establishment, his own party, the MSM, amongst others were all against him. A great achievement really.

Yest and no about shadows, but you're parroting the rightwing attack machine.

A disclaimer: I have never supported Hillary. In 2008 I caucused for Richardson in Iowa. In this year's election I wrote in Elizabeth Warren.

Most corrupt politician in decades? I'd agree Hillary comes across as insincere, that she flipflops, that as senator she did the bidding of Wall Street backers, but holy hyperbole, you're calling Trump honest. Ever hear of Dick Cheney?

Re the media, they're not monolithic. Hillary had the Washington Post, the New York Times, Huffington and more. I could go on and on, but add that in the election campaign Trump had behind him the Murdoch press, Breitbart and other conspiracy-selling sites, radio shock jocks and more. All the media consistently gave him more free publicity than his opponents. He has said all publicity is good, and he played accordingly. Those are not good qualities in a national leader, but the so-called MSM did much to make Trump.

 

[Dave70]

Hillary is easily the most corrupt politician seen in many decades. The shadows hanging over her were way too much for many voters. Yet MSM and her plethora of financial backers did everything in its power to get her over the line.

Trump on the other hand won the presidency when the whole establishment, his own party, the MSM, amongst others were all against him. A great achievement really.

For her plethora of shortcomings, Clinton is at boasts 40 plus years of political experience, high level of academic achievement and diplomatic skills. Trump is a average smarts with a BA in economics (cough) and zero political pedigree. You may as well have Kim Kardishian in office. You cant just tell other world leaders to go **** themselves when they dont see it your way, this isn't reality TV. Words have consequences in the big leagues.
Trump appeals to the politically naive who believe the way to fix something is to swing a wrecking ball through it.

 

[Brownsworthy]

I bet the Democrats are kicking themselves for not pushing Bernie more he is a saint compared to Hillary and Trump.

 

[Dave70]

I bet the Democrats are kicking themselves for not pushing Bernie more he is a saint compared to Hillary and Trump.

An crusty ex-socialist peacenik Jew? Thats unpossible.

 

[good4whatAlesU]

Anyone else notice the similarity with Trump and the guy from Back to the Future 2

? I hope it's not going to head the same direction.

 

[Zorco]

For her plethora of shortcomings, Clinton is at boasts 40 plus years of political experience, high level of academic achievement and diplomatic skills. Trump is a average smarts with a BA in economics (cough) and zero political pedigree. You may as well have Kim Kardishian in office. You cant just tell other world leaders to go **** themselves when they dont see it your way, this isn't reality TV. Words have consequences in the big leagues.
Trump appeals to the politically naive who believe the way to fix something is to swing a wrecking ball through it.

'Within a game theory-like approach, we explore different promotion strategies and we find, counterintuitively, that in order to avoid such an effect (inefficiency) the best ways for improving the efficiency of a given organization are either to promote each time an agent at random or to promote randomly the best and the worst members in terms of competence.'


https://arxiv.org/abs/0907.0455

 

[moonhead]

Hillary is easily the most corrupt politician seen in many decades. The shadows hanging over her were way too much for many voters. Yet MSM and her plethora of financial backers did everything in its power to get her over the line.

Trump on the other hand won the presidency when the whole establishment, his own party, the MSM, amongst others were all against him. A great achievement really.

That's pretty rich considering what she's been accused of (not found guilty of), is no worse than what most pollies in Australia get up to.

"Private Email Server", meanwhile we have Turnbull advocating the use of WhatsApp and Wickr to communicate without any records.

Talking to Banks? Well, most pollies get up at fundraisers and promise the world

 

[malt junkie]

I wonder how our American admin views our take on all this.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Depends who he voted for

 

[pcmfisher]

If Hilary was the best candidate the Democrats could push forward.......well, there's your answer.

 

[Dave70]

I wonder how our American admin views our take on all this.

No more bannings if you play up, just a virtual wall, paid for by the supporting members.

 

[Zorco]

If Hilary was the best candidate the Democrats could push forward.......well, there's your answer.

He wasn't.

It was Berny Sanders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFu8KK7DnYk

 

[Liam_snorkel]

 

[Zorco]

I hope you run a BB on this hat

 

[good4whatAlesU]

Yes we can!

... Oh wait, that was last time.

 

[sp0rk]

I hope you run a BB on this hat

It's about time we did another merch run, most of my shirts are worn out (or I'm just too ******* fat for them)

 

[Weizguy]

I'm off to the fallout shelter, I'll see you all after the next US election.

That's not a reasonable assumption, that we will witnessing another election, EVER.

I really am not sure why so many Australians are shocked at this. We saw evidence of something similar in our recent election with One Nation. The US populace are deeply disenfranchised with the current political elite that have done nothing for the people and are just sick of being fleeced. So what is considered to be an outsider comes along, bingo. Where is the surprise? It is in the fact that the media were clueless and could not put 2 and 2 together. The writing was on the wall folks.

Damn, so you're saying that they followed our example? And I suppose Brexit too?
Stupid bastards!

 

[warra48]

Does anyone really remember any real policies Hilli espoused during the campaign? I for one got heartily sick of the same old same old every night on the news seeing her rabbiting on about "stronger together". Who knows what in blazes that even means?

Much as I or you may disagree with Donni, he did crap on about lots of different things he would do once elected. Obviously, enough of them hit their target.

 

[mondestrunken]

Drink up people. We've just witnessed the start of WW3. Thanks very much swinging voters in a handful of states.

 

[spog]

Drink up people. We've just witnessed the start of WW3. Thanks very much swinging voters in a handful of states.

WW3 ?,dunno about that but look on the bright side.
No Clinton in office means nobody is copping a cigar where cigars ain't supposed to go.

 

[yankinoz]

Does anyone really remember any real policies Hilli espoused during the campaign? I for one got heartily sick of the same old same old every night on the news seeing her rabbiting on about "stronger together". Who knows what in blazes that even means?

Much as I or you may disagree with Donni, he did crap on about lots of different things he would do once elected. Obviously, enough of them hit their target.

She kept to generalities, as she did in 2008. She had the money, and Republican voters are very much in the minority, and so the aim was stick to platitudes and smile. Trouble is, she came across as insincere.

There's a revealing true story about Hillary. In the 1990s the Wall Street banks were lobbying for tightened controls on bankruptcies, on grounds that serial declarers were abusing the system. Elizabeth Warren led a commission of investigation from 1994 to 1997, which found the abusers of the system were rare, and most people who went bankrupt did so because of job losses or medical bills. Congress passed the bill, but Warren convinced Hillary, who convinced Bill to veto. Fast forward to 2002, when Hillary is in the Senate and getting large campaign donations from the same banks. She voted for an almost-identical bill. Okay, she's not the only politician for sale, but the Hillary of today is not the idealist of her earlier years.

 

[Batz]

Put $50 on you being wrong.

 

[wereprawn]

Crikey!
Lots of Chicken Littles on here.
One ******* brokers arms deals with some of the most brutal, terrorist supporting regimes on earth and gets millions in campaign funding from those countries .The other ******* wants a closer relationship with a longtime rival . Terribly simplified but, who's going to pick a fight with the USA and Russia ? ******* no one. So scurry of to your bomb shelters and let the rest of continue with business as usual .

 

[manticle]

Rad.

Enjoy.