grains with the most red colour

[vittorio]

Ey dudes and duddets, just wondering whats everyone's opinion on which grains brings out the most red color. I reckon
Briess red wheat
Briess torrefied wheat-self red
caraaroma

I've been told cara red brings out the color but every time i use it, its more brown than red. Whats everyone's opinion on which grains brings out the most red?

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Roast barley in small amounts.

 

[vittorio]

alot of the time with that, it comes out more amber...

 

[contrarian]

Red X is designed for brewing red beers, have only used about 15% in a beer so far but it certainly has reddy hues.

 

[vittorio]

awesome, never heard of it. i will look it up

 

[vittorio]

ey contrarian, where in Australia can you get red x?? plus what does it taste like? does the grains taste like a good toffee/roasted taste like most red beers??

 

[contrarian]

I got mine in a bulk buy but I found it online here http://homebrewerswarehouse.com.au/index.php?route=product/category&path=46_54

No affiliation, haven't bought anything through them before.

Another poster here made a 95% Red X and 5% Crystal IPA and said that it was not overly malty but has crystal type flavours that made it fairly full bodied, he thought it would be great for a red ale.

You could use this as a base malt and add some cara malts in to get the toffee flavours you were after.

Hope this helps.

 

[vittorio]

thanks man, loads of info

 

[_HOME_BREW_WALLACE_]

roast barley about 1% and caraaroma about 5-10%. carared doesnt really give that red colour like caraaroma does.

 

[vittorio]

last time i used carared, it came out brown and i told my mates it was a brown ale lol

 

[slcmorro]

I'm using Briess Red Wheat in a Hefeweizen I literally just started mashing. I'll let you know how it goes

2.5kg Red Wheat, 1.25kg Munich II and 1.25kg Wey Pils, mashed at 67c for 60 mins, then hopped with 5.0% Vanguard 20gms @ 60. Fermenting at 17c with WB06. Simple as simple.

 

[vittorio]

sounds delicious

 

[slcmorro]

Fingers crossed.

 

[Ross]

Vittorio, Not sure where you got the idea that Briess Red wheat gives red colour, it's just a variety, it gives no red colour?

Most of the Weyermann darker malts give a beautiful red hue. In our commercial brewery we make a point of using Weyermann malts when aiming for red beers.
We use & stock the Red X malt (Best Malt). It is simply a blend of Best's malt created to produce max redness from their malts. Best Malt unfortunately wont reveal the blend or what's in it, but from trials it appears to be very melanoidin with very low attenuation. In our experience we get much better results from using Weyermann malt.


Cheers Ross

 

[vittorio]

quick question why is red x so hard to find? i found a few online shops which stock it. i was just wondering why not many places will stock it? is there a reason?

 

[vittorio]

p.s- what you think about caraamber? havnt used it yet, any good?

 

[fletcher]

red food colouring

 

[punkin]

Red = 5% Cararroma and 50 gm roasted barley per kegs worth.

Learnt that here, it's something i tried and now repeat as it's true, not something i developed myself.

You won't go wrong.

 

[vittorio]

sounds good i will try that one

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

roast barley about 1% and caraaroma about 5-10%. carared doesnt really give that red colour like caraaroma does.

Yep