Grain Mill

[smertin]

Looking at getting a grain mill in the very near future. Got my eye on 2 different setups so far

https://www.ibrew.com.au/products/grain-mill

or

https://www.kegland.com.au/maltmuncher-grain-mill.html / https://www.kegland.com.au/maltmuncher-grain-mill-3-roller.html
https://www.kegland.com.au/maltmuncher-grain-mill-3-roller.html
from what ive been reading it probably isnt worth getting a 3 roller but anyone have any reviews or suggestions on a good purchase?

*EDIT* Forgot to mention if it makes any difference, i have a robobrew and would preferably like to use my drill with the mill but not a necessity.

 

[welly2]

If your budget can stretch a bit, get the Millmaster.

https://www.cleverbrewing.com.au/millmaster-grain-mill.html

One of those things you'll buy once and never need to buy again.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Buy once, buy good, Matt Mill, buy direct from Germany taking off the sales tax works out cheaper than buying from here. Do it now to avoid paying GST after 30 June.

 

[Nugg3t]

Are you talking about these mills WEAL?

https://www.braufox.com.au/en-AU/shop-accessories/lang-en-AU

What mill are you running? I'm in the same situation. I'm leaning towards buy a grain mill once, and only once.

Nugg3t

 

[smertin]

it does look like a decent mill and the same price as the mill master and hopper combination. Im just a little dubious about buying stuff overseas, if anything goes wrong theres a lot less info online on how to fix the problem and parts are harder to source :S

 

[rude]

If your budget can stretch a bit, get the Millmaster.

https://www.cleverbrewing.com.au/millmaster-grain-mill.html

One of those things you'll buy once and never need to buy again.

I'll second this one absolute ripper (without shreading the husks )

 

[smertin]

looking at an original mashmaster (63mm rollers). Anyone have any reviews on these? my budget will be massively stretched if i go for a new 1.

 

[Nugg3t]

Buy once, buy good, Matt Mill, buy direct from Germany taking off the sales tax works out cheaper than buying from here. Do it now to avoid paying GST after 30 June.

Are youtalking about these mills WEAL?

https://www.braufox.com.au/en-AU/shop-accessories/lang-en-AU

What mill are you running? I'm in the same situation. I'm leaning towards buy a grain mill once, and only once.

Nugg3t

 

[Jack of all biers]

Are youtalking about these mills WEAL?

https://www.braufox.com.au/en-AU/shop-accessories/lang-en-AU

What mill are you running? I'm in the same situation. I'm leaning towards buy a grain mill once, and only once.

Nugg3t

Yes he is. Here is a thread on it for those interested. Given the price from Braufox after delivery AND the model I got (I think WEAL too) was the one above that Braufox sell getting it direct from Germany made sense.

 

[Jack of all biers]

looking at an original mashmaster (63mm rollers). Anyone have any reviews on these? my budget will be massively stretched if i go for a new 1.

Just use the search function for 'Mashmaster'. There are a few threads with plenty of happy users.

 

[smertin]

ive just been lookign over the thread for the matt mill you linked and I didnt realise i was looking at the australian distributor. is this where to purches from germany https://www.hobbybrauerversand.de?

 

[Jack of all biers]

ive just been lookign over the thread for the matt mill you linked and I didnt realise i was looking at the australian distributor. is this where to purches from germany https://www.hobbybrauerversand.de?

It's where both WEAL and myself got ours from. Mine delivered within Germany and WEAL's delivered here. The Mattmill Kompakt is still not cheap, but the Mattmill student is cheaper and has pretty good reviews in Germany (but it's not adjustable like the mashmaster or Mattmill Kompakt).

 

[smertin]

ive just sent them an email to see if they can still ship over here and also as WEAL said take off the VAT. Im in 2 minds about which to get though and also where to send it. i sell car parts as a profession and import parts from Germany a fair bit, maybe get them shipped to my supplier add it intoa air/sea freight to average out the costs, but then maybe i will have to pay the VAT. Will do some more investigation tomorrow

 

[wide eyed and legless]

ive just sent them an email to see if they can still ship over here and also as WEAL said take off the VAT. Im in 2 minds about which to get though and also where to send it. i sell car parts as a profession and import parts from Germany a fair bit, maybe get them shipped to my supplier add it intoa air/sea freight to average out the costs, but then maybe i will have to pay the VAT. Will do some more investigation tomorrow

Retailers in most countries will knock off the VAT, can't say the same for the UK, paperwork either to hard or they are bone idle. I also bought my Braumeister from a German retailer he knocked of the tax and posted it to me for 80 euro went through customs without attracting any attention so I never even had to pay the GST either. Probably a good idea to combine your business shipment and a mill at least you will be able to claim shipping costs.

 

[smertin]

Retailers in most countries will knock off the VAT, can't say the same for the UK, paperwork either to hard or they are bone idle. I also bought my Braumeister from a German retailer he knocked of the tax and posted it to me for 80 euro went through customs without attracting any attention so I never even had to pay the GST either. Probably a good idea to combine your business shipment and a mill at least you will be able to claim shipping costs.

Ive just looked into it and its a bit too much faffing around to get it sent to my supplier then add to an order. Will probably end up costing just as much with an added headache! Looking like ordering direct from them is gonna be a go! Enquired about the metal hopper they have for it also which is only 33 euro, hopefully it can be flat packed and wont add on too much freight but dont fancy my chances (soda bottle will do the job no probs if not)

 

[Nugg3t]

Ive just looked into it and its a bit too much faffing around to get it sent to my supplier then add to an order. Will probably end up costing just as much with an added headache! Looking like ordering direct from them is gonna be a go! Enquired about the metal hopper they have for it also which is only 33 euro, hopefully it can be flat packed and wont add on too much freight but dont fancy my chances (soda bottle will do the job no probs if not)

Smertin which grain mill did you end up going with?

I'm still tossing up between the Matt Mill and Millmaster. Interested in feedback on both mills. Looking to purchase this week.

 

[smertin]

Smertin which grain mill did you end up going with?

I'm still tossing up between the Matt Mill and Millmaster. Interested in feedback on both mills. Looking to purchase this week.

I ended up going with the matt mill, does the job perfectly. Had a few issues but nothing major, took around 3 weeks to get as it was stcuk with DHL with no update on the shipment nor any replies from them but eventually turned up in melbourne. Also when it arrived there is a bolt in the hole where the crank handle goes for some reason and they have overtightened at the factory. Took forever to try get the thing out and eventually ended up snapping, have the thread stuck in there until i can get it drilled out now. Lucky enough the crank handle fits in the bearing on the other side and i just had to switch the base plate around. Done 2 lots of grain through it now for my robobrew on factory setting and got 75% eff 1st tike and looking like 80% from yesterdays. Goes through roughly 5kg in 10 mins with a pretty relaxed turning of the handle. Best thing about it is its so compact it can be stored and can be fit to any table, nice bit of cusioning under the base plate so it doesnt ruin the furniture.

 

[Nugg3t]

I ended up going with the matt mill, does the job perfectly. Had a few issues but nothing major, took around 3 weeks to get as it was stcuk with DHL with no update on the shipment nor any replies from them but eventually turned up in melbourne. Also when it arrived there is a bolt in the hole where the crank handle goes for some reason and they have overtightened at the factory. Took forever to try get the thing out and eventually ended up snapping, have the thread stuck in there until i can get it drilled out now. Lucky enough the crank handle fits in the bearing on the other side and i just had to switch the base plate around. Done 2 lots of grain through it now for my robobrew on factory setting and got 75% eff 1st tike and looking like 80% from yesterdays. Goes through roughly 5kg in 10 mins with a pretty relaxed turning of the handle. Best thing about it is its so compact it can be stored and can be fit to any table, nice bit of cusioning under the base plate so it doesnt ruin the furniture.

Cheers for the feedback. I'll send Braufox an email. I tried the german company, but they have told me they don't ship to Australia.

 

[smertin]

Cheers for the feedback. I'll send Braufox an email. I tried the german company, but they have told me they don't ship to Australia.

Thats strange I only just got mine a mobth ago from them, was it hopfen und mehr you asked?

https://www.hobbybrauerversand.de

 

[Nugg3t]

Thats strange I only just got mine a mobth ago from them, was it hopfen und mehr you asked?

https://www.hobbybrauerversand.de

Yeah. Sent them an email, and they said it wasn't possible to send to OZ.

 

[smertin]

Yeah. Sent them an email, and they said it wasn't possible to send to OZ.

Hmm thats very strange, maybe it was to do with my order and DHL messing us around. Perhaps they're thinking its not worthwhile if the same thing happens again and they mess up the shipment.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Cheers for the feedback. I'll send Braufox an email. I tried the german company, but they have told me they don't ship to Australia.

You could try these, or have a look for another German retailer.
https://www.brouwmarkt.nl/en/catalogsearch/result/?cat=0&q=mattmill

 

[huez]

Cheers for the feedback. I'll send Braufox an email. I tried the german company, but they have told me they don't ship to Australia.

Possibly because of the introduction of gst on all imports?

 

[Hangover68]

UK companies will remove the vat but the new gst rules have changed the game - for the worst.

 

[Cian Doyle]

Getting a good crush with my Keg King geared 3 roller mill, removed the safety grid, it prevented the grain from flowing through. Much better now and my fingers wouldn't fit through the bottom of the hopper any way, plus the gap is to small for the rollers to get purchase on fingers.

 

[postmaster]

If your budget can stretch a bit, get the Millmaster.

https://www.cleverbrewing.com.au/millmaster-grain-mill.html

One of those things you'll buy once and never need to buy again.

I look at the millmaster at the start of April 2020 They were roughly $299 now they have gone to $399 33% increase. Rather buy a mill master. Problem is they are no export from Germany at the minute because of COVID-19

 

[postmaster]

Buy once, buy good, Matt Mill, buy direct from Germany taking off the sales tax works out cheaper than buying from here. Do it now to avoid paying GST after 30 June.

Would have love the Matt Mill. Problem is they are not exporting from Germany at the minute because of COVID-19. Caleb Macquire from Braufox have none in stock. I was after the Matt Mill Kompact Comfort. Millmaster have just put their price up from $299 to $399. So I got one from Keg Keg 3 roller geared mill. Just waiting on it.

 

[postmaster]

ive just been lookign over the thread for the matt mill you linked and I didnt realise i was looking at the australian distributor. is this where to purches from germany Hopfen und mehr - Hobbybrauerversand - Bier selber brauen?

This is the response I got from them. Also email Kraushaar-exports and they forward my email to Braufox. Who I had already been in contact with.
We do not ship to Australia. The company [www.kraushaar-exports.de]www.kraushaar-exports.de is your contact for MattMill products for export.

Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards
Monika Muranyi
- Geschäftsführerin / COO -

This is the response I got from Kraushaar-exports. Any good luck
Thank you for your interest in the MattMill products.

At this point of time we are only selling within Europe.

I put the Manufacturer Mr Hossfeld of MattMill in CC, from my understanding he has business established with a Australian reseller. I hope he can provide some advice how to get a MattMill Kompakt Komfort.

Best regards
Udo Kraushaar

 

[postmaster]

Getting a good crush with my Keg King geared 3 roller mill, removed the safety grid, it prevented the grain from flowing through. Much better now and my fingers wouldn't fit through the bottom of the hopper any way, plus the gap is to small for the rollers to get purchase on fingers.
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Thats look great crush . I am just waiting on mine. What size did you set your rollers ? Are you using a drill ? I look at the motor they sell, but I reckon that 180rpm is too fast. I have a 2 roller that runs off a wiper motor and runs at about 60 rpm (Bit slow) but no dust.

 

[wide eyed and legless]

Would have love the Matt Mill. Problem is they are not exporting from Germany at the minute because of COVID-19. Caleb Macquire from Braufox have none in stock. I was after the Matt Mill Kompact Comfort. Millmaster have just put their price up from $299 to $399. So I got one from Keg Keg 3 roller geared mill. Just waiting on it.

If you mean Keg King 3 roller with the driven roller, I have tried it at their store and was very impressed. Mills the grain as good as the Matt Mill, I was of the opinion that the larger roller would be better but it seems they are not.