Goodbye Bronwyn

[sponge]

More often than not I find the ********* well out-number the good.

 

[mje1980]

Yeah but you're an electrical engineer. There's something not quite right about electrical people.


















At least that's what they told us during my fitters apprenticeship

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

More often than not I find the managers well out-number the good.

 

[sponge]

'Engineer' can be a very loose term these days..

I haven't been quite right for years and turned out fine.

 

[wobbly]

Actually, at one point I was earning more than my manager.

As one honest politician who tried to stand up for Australian values and beliefs once said

"Please Explain!!!!"


Wobbly

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Yeah but you're an electrical engineer. There's something not quite right about electrical people.


















At least that's what they told us during my fitters apprenticeship

You should have heard what they said about plumbers. Apparently it was a really **** trade ( sorry Dave, not directed at you or plumbers I have known )

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

As one honest politician who tried to stand up for Australian values and beliefs once said

"Please Explain!!!!"


Wobbly

Hard work.

 

[manticle]

Australian values? Mean spiritness, bigotry and stupidity are Australian values now are they?

 

[seamad]

I suspect that malty blues and weal are ex-pat poms, who share a love for the Thatcherite days. Thatcher believed that there was no such thing as societies, just individuals, which explains the **** you I'm alright attitude. It also goes someway to explaining the belief that monetary worth is above all else.

 

[malt and barley blues]

10+ years ago no one gave a crap what anyone did for a living or scrutinised how much they earned for it or made a judgement on whether they were "worth" that much money, or if the job they did was technically skilled or semi skilled. These days for some reason lots of people want to point the finger at other people about whether they deserve to get paid for what they do. It's quite ridiculous and kind of sad IMHO.

Today is different to the past, people in the sixties thought that jobs would be there forever, today we live in a time when nothing seems to last, what does the future hold for those working today, will they be working until they are seventy, will they have enough money to survive in their old age, what will a government pension be like, will they have enough in their super.

Money we need to provide for our family as best as we can, then we also need money for our old age, money is extremely important. As for being "worth", one has to make their own worth, make themselves invaluable to their employers, head down arse up, do your job efficiently and look after your money.

 

[mje1980]

Don't forget it's the Internet, in a social situation face to face with a few fine brews, everyone would get on just fine. A lot easier to explain your views face to face than a keyboard.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Not sure about you, but my super is looking pretty ******* good at this point in time B)

 

[malt and barley blues]

which explains the **** you I'm alright attitude. It also goes someway to explaining the belief that monetary worth is above all else.

Isn't that exactly what the train drivers are saying.

 

[mje1980]

I think they may be a little annoyed that all and sundry feel free to judge whether they deserve their award rate

 

[mje1980]

We should all put other jobs under the spotlight. 10 mins with a lawyer for instance, how much???!!!!

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Isn't that exactly what the train drivers are saying.

What have you got against train drivers ?

Are you jealous ?

 

[seamad]

Isn't that exactly what the train drivers are saying.

No it's not. You and weal keep trying to point out the strikes about money, it's not.
The RTBU is locked in an arm wrestle with Metro about who controls the working conditions of staff. Metro's offer of a 17 per cent pay rise over four years might be generous enough for the union to agree to, if it weren't for the big changes to working conditions Metro insists must go with it. The union has vowed it will not give up hard-won protections of its members' work-life balance. The two sides are as far apart as ever on this, even though talks have been going for five months. Further strike action has not been ruled out.

 

[wobbly]

Australian values? Mean spiritness, bigotry and stupidity are Australian values now are they?

Those values can be attributed to many in our society.

But at least she was prepared to express what a large percentage of the general population (silent majority) thinks/agrees with and not the one sided views that the are touted by the very vocal minority

As a country we are apathetic and don't feel strongly enough about the issues that are going to bite us in the backside in the not too distant future

Both major parties were scared sh----ss that their hold on political power was seriously in question that they moved heaven and earth to discredit and shut the party down

Wobbly

 

[mje1980]

Woah, this is about to go to 150 pages

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

151 once the train driver dispute is settled