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Filby

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Ok so Im up over 50 AG brews now and have been using a variety of methods to clear the final beer with good results (filter, extended cold conditioning etc) but now I would like to try gelatine as it seems to be a cheap method with good results.
My question relates to when to do the gelatine addition in a beer that is going to be dry hopped. I know people add it to the secondary but isnt the yeast going to be dropped out as well and this kinda defeats the purpose of doing a secondary? Also, what impact is the gelatine going to have on the absorption of flavour from the dry hopping? If I add the gelatine to a secondary vessel post dry hopping and post ferment completion and then let sit and cold condition for a week will I not run the risk of oxidisation due to there being no CO2 generated by the ferment?

Oh and I dont want to add it to the keg as the kegs will be moved around a bit. I want clear beer going into the keg.



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Going to add some stuff as I read more about this subject.

It does appear that gelatine strips hop aroma from beer so I think I have a plan.

Ferment Complete
Cold crash
Add Gelatine
Sit for a couple of days
Transfer to secondary (hopefully leaving all the yeast and haze behind)
Add dry hops.
Let warm to ambient temps and sit for 5 days
Cold Condition
Keg and Carbonate.


Seems like a PITA.
 

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To be honest, i'm not sure that adding gelatine, then doing all the other steps is worth while. You'll stir it up a litte (even if being careful) when transfering etc.

I would go with the following order:

complete the ferment
then adding dry hops (or near end of ferment)
then cold condition
add gelatine whilst cold conditioning
Transfer to keg

You may get some flavour/aroma stripped from the beer, but i'd say you've probably just got to chose between that and no gelatine. I also am not convinced that the stripping of flavour and aroma is perceptable.

If you are super worried about clarity, why not filter then hop in the keg?
 

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Yer was thinking keg hopping but dont want hop floaties in beer. I mainly only use pellets. Once again its that compromise. Maybe I should do extended cold conditioning like Ive done in the past...
 

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I reckon you can't go past chucking some dissolved gelatine in the bottom of the keg and racking your beer onto it.
I didn't realize how well it worked until I forgot to do it with my last keg- it was nowhere as clear right to the end.
 

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I reckon you can't go past chucking some dissolved gelatine in the bottom of the keg and racking your beer onto it.
I didn't realize how well it worked until I forgot to do it with my last keg- it was nowhere as clear right to the end.
how much beer do you need to pour to get it out of the keg ?

edit: just searched around = couple of pints

gonna try it next keg...
 

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I reckon you can't go past chucking some dissolved gelatine in the bottom of the keg and racking your beer onto it.
I didn't realize how well it worked until I forgot to do it with my last keg- it was nowhere as clear right to the end.
If you add gelatine will there be enough yeast left to carbonate bottled brew
 

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I reckon you can't go past chucking some dissolved gelatine in the bottom of the keg and racking your beer onto it.
I didn't realize how well it worked until I forgot to do it with my last keg- it was nowhere as clear right to the end.
Agreed 100%, and i remembered the hard way last brew also haha...
 

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I reckon you can't go past chucking some dissolved gelatine in the bottom of the keg and racking your beer onto it.
I didn't realize how well it worked until I forgot to do it with my last keg- it was nowhere as clear right to the end.
I do this all the time with great results. I don't even bother throwing the first couple of pints. However, I don't like wasting beer either!
 

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