For The Math Guru's.

[DarrenTheDrunk]

Hi all

Just for ***** and Giggles. I use bleach on all of my HB equip. and as chlorine is essentially what bleach is, I decided to use high strength chlorine granules to make my own bleach...heaps cheaper and necessary in my current financial position and give the amount I drink !! As I said, this is just for a bit of fun as a mate worked it out for me but thought I would put it up here.

I have 700 grams per kilo of granule chlorine and want to know what the mixing ratio would be to make a 4% bleach solution. Now despite being tertiary qualified in Commerce and an accountant (retired who never worked as an accountant though), I thought surely I know enough to solve this issue...I was dead set wrong and it had nothing to do with having a few 7.5% "froffy's" under my belt (maybe just a little bit). My mate come up with 54 grams of the chlorine per litre of water will give me a 4% solution. He is off the radar for the next week but I would love someone off more infinite wisdom than me (almost all of you) to explain how he got to this figure. I am sure I will not be the only one who is interested in this explanation.

ps...if you can explain it, "pre tell" what your background is cos your a bloody guru.

Cheers and Beers

darren

 

[Crusty]

Table 1:
57.2g into 1L = 4% solution?

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[Dave70]

Mate.. the ***** like $1.50 for 2 liters at Coles. Better still, stretch your budget to some no name un scented sodium percarbonate loaded nappy wash. I think its about $3 per kilo. ******* around with nasty chlorine for '***** and giggles'? Each to their own I guess.

 

[DarrenTheDrunk]

Thanks Crusty.. that is bloody perfect. Dave70, I just do not know what can be used like what you are suggesting and the stellarsan will add up when I am brewing 180 litres at a time and using bottles as well as a keg setup with 6 kegs at this stage. I was just looking for a really cheap option. At a low concentration, apparently this works well and is a no rinse solution. If you have any better inexpensive recommendations I would be very interested. Cheers and Beers

 

[MHB]

Chlorine (even at low concentrations) eats kegs, looks cheap until you start needing to replace them.
Absolutely not a no rinse option either.
Dude there is being tight then there is being stupid, then there's drinking metho.
Mark

 

[soreba]

I brew 80L batches and use probably 2-3ml of Sellersan each time. They say on the product page that Stellarsan can be diluted down to 500L total.
For me that would be 166 batches! And a bottle is $6.45.. your looking at 3 - 4 cents per brew, pretty economical in my book for a no-rinse sanitizer.

You can even re-use the stuff, store it in a keg or a cube for your next batch if your that worried about cost.

 

[DarrenTheDrunk]

Yes all very good points AND I humbly accept "defeat". I guess I was "blinded" by this cost factor and did never really did the math. Below is one of the video's I watched and I offer it here for information to others ONLY

https://beerliever.com/bleach-no-rinse-sanitiser-home-brewing-beer/

 

[DarrenTheDrunk]

Please understand that this is all a learning experience for me and frankly as Hogans Hero "Schultz" say..."I know nothing"

Cheers

 

[soreba]

If this is a learning experience, why are you brewing 180 Litres at a time? Thats a sure fire way of throwing 180L of expensive hops/malt/extract down the drain if it goes bad.

 

[Barry]

Please be careful, I know at least one home brewer, with a science background, gravely damaging his long term health with a homemade cleaning product.

 

[scomet]

Yes all very good points AND I humbly accept "defeat". I guess I was "blinded" by this cost factor and did never really did the math. Below is one of the video's I watched and I offer it here for information to others ONLY

https://beerliever.com/bleach-no-rinse-sanitiser-home-brewing-beer/

There's a big difference between 4% and 80ppm! follow Dave70s advice, be safe and make better beer……

 

[Meddo]

Please be careful, I know at least one home brewer, with a science background, gravely damaging his long term health with a homemade cleaning product.

Elaborate, please?

 

[MHB]

Elaborate, please?

+1
Mark

 

[Crusty]

Please be careful, I know at least one home brewer, with a science background, gravely damaging his long term health with a homemade cleaning product.

Ethanol?

 

[RRising]

Ethanol?

I was thinking more bleach and vinegar which can be a good cleaner but very dangerous mixed together wrong.

I have found that chlorine based Miltons was the best at eliminating odours. I had an extract batch skunk once (i tried to re-use coopers yeast but mucked it up somehow) and no matter what cleaner i used (i used sodium percarbonate and star-san) the stink didn't go away.

Used a quarter bottle of miltons, filled up with cold water and left overnight, drained and filled up with hot water and drained and the odour was completely gone.

 

[Hops are tops]

I brew 80L batches and use probably 2-3ml of Sellersan each time. They say on the product page that Stellarsan can be diluted down to 500L total.
For me that would be 166 batches! And a bottle is $6.45.. your looking at 3 - 4 cents per brew, pretty economical in my book for a no-rinse sanitizer.

You can even re-use the stuff, store it in a keg or a cube for your next batch if your that worried about cost.

so how much do you mix to per litre of hot water thanks

 

[Engibeer]

Why people would use bleach as a home brew cleaner makes ZERO sense to me.

 

[Dave70]

Why people would use bleach as a home brew cleaner makes ZERO sense to me.

Its absolutely got its place as a studiously applied cleaner and disinfectant around the place, just not so much in the HB toolkit when far better options are available.
Plus it really gets your whites white.

 

[DarrenTheDrunk]

Thanks Dave... Can you advise what you use please mate

 

[DarrenTheDrunk]

Why people would use bleach as a home brew cleaner makes ZERO sense to me.

What do you use Engibeer