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Ella (formerly Stella)

Discussion in 'Hop Descriptions' started by jyo, 27/6/11.

 

  1. jyo

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    Posted 27/6/11
    MOD: Topic merged by Lord Raja Goomba I, so that description shows at the very top of topic.
    ABOUT ELLA
    More subtle in character, Ella (previously known as Stella) packs less of an upfront punch than her big sister Galaxy, but is no less of a star.
    The changing faces of Ella make her an intriguing hop to experiment with.
    In lower doses, Ella can display floral and subtle spice notes, such as star anise, which is best appreciated in lagers or pilsners. With larger additions or when dry hopping, Ella imparts distinct grapefruit and tropical flavours which can be used to offset robust malt and yeast characters in many styles.

    BREW TIPS
    A high level of essential oil presents many options to brewers, who will be rewarded with enticing flavour combinations when varying doses are added to the mix.

    HOP STORY
    Ella’s story is similar to half-sister Galaxy; however this time the male parent hop was derived from Spalt.
    Born in Victoria in 2001, her star quality was notable even as a seedling, so her brewing assessment was accelerated and she was unveiled to brewers for trials in 2007.
    Her early appearances revealed strong floral, noble hop character complemented with a delicious spicy finish. Making a great first impression, brewers couldn’t get enough of Ella and she was fast-tracked into commercial production.

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    Hi brewers,
    Little Creatures recently had a keg of their pale ale on hand pump at the brewery dry hopped with Stella for free tasting (couldn't get down there :() and this was the first I had heard of Stella hops. This is from the Craftbrewer website:


    Stella is a new aroma variety which contributes hoppy and floral notes, with subtle hints of anise and a satisfying fullness of palate. Stella is reminiscent of, yet distinctly different in character to noble European varieties, and provides a contrast to the citrus and tropical fruit characters of many modern hops. Stella grows vigorously, producing moderately large, dense cones which mature mid- to late-season, with a broad harvest window helping to ensure excellent physical and
    chemical quality in the final product. With an alpha acid content of ~15%, Stella is an aroma hop with options. This newly developed aroma hop deserves experimentation � the hoppy characters and texture on the palate would provide a new twist to a pilsner or lager, while the floral characters could provide a highlight in a wide range of beer styles.

    This sounds really interesting. Has anyone brewed with these yet?

    Cheers, John.
     
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  2. keifer33

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    Ooo that wasnt there when I last looked. Also missed out on the LC so will have to order some to experiment myself. Gonna have a run of Single Hop beers with all these new ones to try.
     
  3. O'Henry

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    Yeah, it is tasty as.

    Mango and fruit salad when used liberally ( <4g/l late). Blended with Challenger in equal amounts to bring out a nice spicy note (1g/l each). Was an exciting hop, and I really enjoyed bring with it. Still have some left for a brown ale hopefully.

    Verdict: A hop for both hop heads and appreciators of the lighter hop notes, depends on how it is used.

    Note: I only used flowers.
     
  4. jyo

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    Posted 27/6/11
    [quote name='O'Henry' post='788937' date='Jun 28 2011, 12:29 AM']Yeah, it is tasty as.

    Mango and fruit salad when used liberally ( <4g/l late). Blended with Challenger in equal amounts to bring out a nice spicy note (1g/l each). Was an exciting hop, and I really enjoyed bring with it. Still have some left for a brown ale hopefully.

    Verdict: A hop for both hop heads and appreciators of the lighter hop notes, depends on how it is used.

    Note: I only used flowers.[/quote]

    Cheers, Fellas.
    This is sounding fantastic.
     
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  5. felten

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    Posted 27/6/11
    Damnit I wanted to try these and they weren't in the shop when I put an order through last week :(
     
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    [quote name='O'Henry' post='788937' date='Jun 27 2011, 11:29 PM']Yeah, it is tasty as.

    Mango and fruit salad when used liberally ( <4g/l late). Blended with Challenger in equal amounts to bring out a nice spicy note (1g/l each). Was an exciting hop, and I really enjoyed bring with it. Still have some left for a brown ale hopefully.

    Verdict: A hop for both hop heads and appreciators of the lighter hop notes, depends on how it is used.

    Note: I only used flowers.[/quote]

    Hi, was that your Stella hopped pale ale on the WA stand at the conference?
    If so it had a unique flavour and aroma that to me was sort of peachy/apricot/spicy. Again if it was yours can you please share your late hopping amounts for that beer. If the beer at the conference was not yours then i suppose this whole post is a bit pointless. :blink:
     
  7. Lord Raja Goomba I

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    Posted 5/7/11
    [quote name='O'Henry' post='788937' date='Jun 27 2011, 11:29 PM']Yeah, it is tasty as.

    Mango and fruit salad when used liberally ( <4g/l late). Blended with Challenger in equal amounts to bring out a nice spicy note (1g/l each). Was an exciting hop, and I really enjoyed bring with it. Still have some left for a brown ale hopefully.

    Verdict: A hop for both hop heads and appreciators of the lighter hop notes, depends on how it is used.

    Note: I only used flowers.[/quote]

    Stella plus Citra (or Galaxy) :icon_drool2:

    My next Pale Ale is sorted.

    Goomba
     
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    Yep, that was the Stella Single Hop beer brendanos and I made.

    Stellaaa(aaaaaa) 18/9/10
    6kg galaxy ale
    300g special b
    10g stella(aaa) 30 mins
    30g stella(aaa) 20 mins
    30g stella(aaa) 10 mins
    28g stella(aaa) 0 mins
    start boil: 30L @ 13.4 Brix
    in fermemter: 19L @ 16 Brix / 1.063
    tg: 1.013

    That was the whole beer, fermented in around a week and kegged to go to the conference. Hope this helps!

    Edit: alpha on last year was 16.3%, oil was pretty high too. They were also flowers, not pellets.
     
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    Posted 10/7/11
    [quote name='O'Henry' post='793442' date='Jul 10 2011, 01:49 PM']Yep, that was the Stella Single Hop beer brendanos and I made.

    Stellaaa(aaaaaa) 18/9/10
    6kg galaxy ale
    300g special b
    10g stella(aaa) 30 mins
    30g stella(aaa) 20 mins
    30g stella(aaa) 10 mins
    28g stella(aaa) 0 mins
    start boil: 30L @ 13.4 Brix
    in fermemter: 19L @ 16 Brix / 1.063
    tg: 1.013

    That was the whole beer, fermented in around a week and kegged to go to the conference. Hope this helps!

    Edit: alpha on last year was 16.3%, oil was pretty high too. They were also flowers, not pellets.[/quote]

    Thanks, that is a great help. I really liked that conference beer and now i should be able to make something pretty close.
     
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    Anyone drinking a stella brew yet?

    I got some, thinking of a LCBA grain bill with stella hopped like the schedule above. Have s-189 in stock at the moment.
     
  11. LukeRules

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    I tried the Bridge Road Brewers Stella IPA (barrel aged) recently and really enjoyed it.

    It felt citrusy but rounded. Normally I don't enjoy single hop IPAs as they are a little... one dimesional, but the stella really held up from start to finish. It was impressive.
     
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    Posted 31/7/11
    Courtesy of another (probably unneeded, but fun nonetheless - thanks SWMBO) trip to craftbrewer (I'll probably be back next weekend, and I'll bring a bottle next time, Ross), I now have in my freezer:

    90g Galaxy
    225g Citra
    454g Willamette
    454g Cascade US
    90g Stella
    Leftover Nelson Sauvin and Smaragd (good, cheap hop that one, will post a recipe, when I photo the beer and feedback on Smaragd).

    And the malt milled for 1. An APA and 2. Roggenweiss

    So I'll give feedback on Stella in due course.

    We should (AHB I mean) have a section (or database) where people discuss specific hop varieties. Given there are so many new varieties, it might be good to have a database of these. Not "I H8 NS" or anything, just feedback, AA% variations and seasonal changes, styles of beer they suit, what they work well with.

    Goomba
     
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    Stellaaaa(aaaaaaa[aaaaaaaaaaaa])!!!!

    As O'Henry/Ben said it is very Mango-ey but it has a little bit of spiciness about it. Kinda herbal too? I got a lot less Mango on the Creatures dry hopped beer & much more herbaciousness ie coriander. Not sure if it a seasonal variation (first time I have tried this year's crop) or just usage/presentation. I hope it stays tropical!
     
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    BIG +1 to that...

    The Lordeth hath spoken....
     
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    I have a pack of Stella after I got it by mistake in my order instead of Simcoe.
    Looking forward to giving it a go and tasting the results now.

    Yeah +1 for hop section on forum (+ yeast too)
     
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    I'm curious to know what people have experienced when brewing with this hop.
    HPA say "Ella can display floral and subtle spice notes, such as star anise, which is best appreciated in lagers or pilsners. With larger additions or when dry hopping, Ella imparts distinct grapefruit and tropical flavours..."
    They also say "Her early appearances revealed strong floral, noble hop character complemented with a delicious spicy finish"
    I was thinking of using it in ESB-ish brews and I also found Dead Dog Stout by Black Dog Brewery and that uses Ella and Hallertau.
    Sounds like a fairly diverse hop but I'd like to know what others have found.
     
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    So would I since I ordered a kilo with you! It was on a whim, not my style, but wanted to diversify a little!
     
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    I used Ella in an IPA earlier this year and got plenty of floral aroma and some anise too. I'm planning on doing an all Ella pale ale when I get mine to give it a chance to express itself alone.
     
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    I'll do a stout then and we can swap.
     
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    Personally it's not my favourite hop in an IPA/pale ale. It just tastes like flowers to me. Dandelions. I tried a single hop Ella IPA once, it tasted the way a florist smells. If that's your bag, go for it.

    I would say use it in combination with other hops, or maybe in a more subtle style of beer.
     

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