Help Support Aussie Homebrewer by donating:

  1. We have implemented the ability to gift someone a Supporting Membership now! When you access the Upgrade page there is now a 'Gift' button. Once you click that you can enter a username to gift an account Upgrade to. Great way to help support this forum plus give some kudos to anyone who has helped you.
    Dismiss Notice

cleaner

Discussion in 'Gear and Equipment' started by Moog, 15/6/19.

 

  1. Moog

    BIAB-ER

    Joined:
    20/11/13
    Messages:
    109
    Likes Received:
    27
    Gender:
    Male
    Posted 15/6/19
    I saw these in aldi today I wondered if the are suitable for brewing, is anyone using them?
     

    Attached Files:

  2. donald_trub

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    24/3/13
    Messages:
    173
    Likes Received:
    37
    Gender:
    Male
    Posted 15/6/19
    The photos are pretty hard to read, but judging by the name it should be OK. Check the ingredients. If the active ingredient is sodium percarbonate then you're good, but you also want it to be fragrance free.
     
  3. wide eyed and legless

    Pro Pro

    Joined:
    5/9/13
    Messages:
    6,090
    Likes Received:
    2,713
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Mulgrave Victoria
    Posted 15/6/19
    The oxy sensitive looks to be useful as a cleaner, sodium carbonate and sodium percarbonate and no fragrance.
     
  4. MHB

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    30/9/05
    Messages:
    5,309
    Likes Received:
    2,731
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Newcastle
    Posted 15/6/19
    I think this comes up every time Aldi puts something on special, so one more time for those who cant finger count.
    My local HBS sells 5kg of pure Sodium Percarbonate $29.95, or $5.95/kg. Perk comes in various forms and at various prices, Food Machinery Contact grade is purer than what is used to remove skid-marks from undies. Coated is more stable than uncoated. The coating is usually Sodium Silicate (see MSDS) and helps to stop the Perk breaking down when exposed to moisture in the air.
    The Aldi Di-San is <30% Perk and a bunch of others stuff mostly Sodium Carbonate.(< means less than)
    upload_2019-6-16_8-49-37.png
    Apparently the 3kg package was a special and isn't available all the time, looks like they were charging $8.99 or ~$3/kg.
    If its 30% Perk that's the equivalent of $3/30*100=$10/kg.

    I would be tempted to go to my LHBS, get best quality cleaner/steriliser for 40% less money and know exactly what I'm using.
    Mark
     
    Timbo, hellbent, razz and 2 others like this.
  5. Brewer Tom

    Member

    Joined:
    22/11/18
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    6
    Location:
    Collaroy
    Posted 3/7/19
    I've always used the 'purple' one. Kegs, kettle, bottles and fermenter no problems.
     
  6. DU99

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    7/6/10
    Messages:
    6,804
    Likes Received:
    1,015
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    Deer Park.Victoria
    Posted 4/7/19
    i used aldi ,before bulking buying the higher grade
     
  7. sp0rk

    Mayor of Pooptown

    Joined:
    13/2/11
    Messages:
    4,072
    Likes Received:
    1,012
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Muswellbrook
    Posted 4/7/19
    Have you tried SOAK from All Pro at Sandgate?
    They tell me it's Sodium Perc, Sodium Metasilicate, a proprietary chelating agent (they said it's not EDTA) but no SLS
    I was tempted to grab 10kg and just throw in some SLS to make a knockoff PBW, but it's kind of tempting to just get BBW from Brewman
     
  8. MHB

    Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    30/9/05
    Messages:
    5,309
    Likes Received:
    2,731
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Newcastle
    Posted 4/7/19
    I do the latter. I also know the chemist who formulates the BBW, he also makes cleaning chemicals for several other small breweries locally (including where I work) he is also a home brewer.
    Fair to say I believe that good cleaning products and using them properly are very important and put value on a product doing the job I want without any unexpected side issues.
    Often using the right chemical the wrong way can be just as bad as not using the right product, (i.e. some acids used well will remove beer stone, same chemicals will dissolve a tank at the wrong concentration) another example is the often cited notion that Citric Acid will passivate Stainless Steel, it will under certain conditions (usually adjusted temperature and time with additions of a buffer and for some grades of SS K-Dichromate and or copper salts...).
    Point being that just sprinkling citric acid on a weld and saying abracadabra probably wont get a passivated weld, using the right products (some with citric) the right way will.

    Cleaning and sanitizing is a vital part of the brewing process, as pointed out above the right chemicals are often less expensive than supermarket rando crud. If you think about it using a quality product from a good supplier is only going to cost you (say Perk @ $6/kg, 50 g/brew) 30 cents a brew (maybe $1 for BBW or the like).
    Often complete rubbish and a bit of boiling water will do a good enough job most of the time - 1 infection or contaminated brew in a decade and you will loose more than you save trying to find a cheaper answer.
    Frankly strikes me as a pretty pointless exercise, use the best product, use it properly make good beer!
    Mark

    PS
    Sp0rk, yes I know All Pro, good for glasses and kitchen ware done a fair amount of shopping there, some good floor cleaners, glass and dish washing detergents to, not so much for brewery cleaning.
    M
     
    razz, Coalminer and sp0rk like this.
  9. sp0rk

    Mayor of Pooptown

    Joined:
    13/2/11
    Messages:
    4,072
    Likes Received:
    1,012
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Muswellbrook
    Posted 5/7/19
    Hmmm, might stick with the BBW then
     

Share This Page