Chinese Hops? What Next

[bradsbrew]

I just hope that when the distribution centre gets the near 400 kg of hops, they all dont go naked, and roll arround in the hops before sending them (I would be temped, imagine making love in them).

Ohhhhhh The sights, and smells

Craftbrewer

Talk about spoil the suprise pics sent at the bottom of each kilo.

 

[bum]

Edit: Bum, is that how you spell sake? Just doesnt look right.

Seems I have a reputation.

You're right, it does look wrong but you got it right. Weird, isn't it.

 

[MarkBastard]

so close to being back on topic then the ego maniac and one of his little followers takes it right back off again dont blame anyone but townsville for the fighting on this thread , why shouldnt people reply to the utter crap that pours from his mouth?

Go and have a sook elsewhere

 

[daemon]

I just hope that when the distribution centre gets the near 400 kg of hops, they all dont go naked, and roll arround in the hops before sending them (I would be temped, imagine making love in them).

I had to double check three times now, either Chappo has stolen your login or he's channelling his thoughts through your PC :blink: :blink:

 

[real_beer]

I just hope that when the distribution centre gets the near 400 kg of hops, they all dont go naked, and roll arround in the hops before sending them (I would be temped, imagine making love in them).

Ohhhhhh The sights, and smells

Craftbrewer

At least James & Andy kept their gear on!!!!!

 

[Fourstar]

His face would be soo soo sticky after that.

 

[townsville]

gee the Chinese are good. And this is f---en brilliant.

Paid to the Chinese company this morning a touch under $3000.00.

Lunchtime they tell me they have the money

An hour later they are ready to package and ship the hops tommorrow. Get this, they would do it today BUT the offical holidays in China finish today, and labourers can start work tommorrow.

I bet many wish they did not pull out of this hop buy. This is better service than the Australian and NZ hop industry

Craftbrewer

 

[Fourstar]

An hour later they are ready to package and ship the hops tommorrow. Get this, they would do it today BUT the offical holidays in China finish today, and labourers can start work tommorrow.

Not good enough! I want my refund in full Tonwsville!

:lol:

 

[brettprevans]

on a differant but sort of related topic (the topic of importing hops/hop products).

so AQIS doesnt require an importers licence to bring in dried hop pellets/leaves
but AQIS does require an importers licence to bring in herbal tea if it has hop material of any description

go figure!

 

[beerbrewer76543]

There's no way this thread is back on topic, surely?

So who's organising a grain BULK BUY then?

 

[townsville]

There's no way this thread is back on topic, surely?

So who's organising a grain BULK BUY then?

At the moment I have on the books

1. The MASSIVE grain bulk buy
2. The bleeden Tampon bulk buy
3. The Nip New Car Ultra cheap Bulk buy

Craftbrewer

 

[bum]

There's no way this thread is back on topic, surely?

Nah, people are talking about some bulk buy or something instead.

 

[townsville]

on a differant but sort of related topic (the topic of importing hops/hop products).

so AQIS doesnt require an importers licence to bring in dried hop pellets/leaves
but AQIS does require an importers licence to bring in herbal tea if it has hop material of any description

go figure!

Not quite

1. No licence if T-90 pellets. They are processed so much they kill every living thing in them.
2. BUT , pressed flower plugs, leaves, loose hops - yes you do need a licence

Craftbrewer

 

[beerbrewer76543]

:icon_offtopic:

"Hey Hey It's Saturday" is un-Australian... h34r:

 

[sinkas]

fkin americans tucking in their t-shirts, then strapping it in with a belt, surpirsed they dont have fanny-packs on and knee high white socks

 

[leiothrix]

At the moment I have on the books

1. The MASSIVE grain bulk buy
2. The bleeden Tampon bulk buy
3. The Nip New Car Ultra cheap Bulk buy

Craftbrewer

Wasn't there also the cheap plasma TVs with no warranty?

Rob.

 

[MarkBastard]

pfft i think id rather an australian made TV....oh wait

 

[townsville]

wasn't that hey hey its saturday skit racist or racialist

Well guys it wasn't racist, as it was a copy of the same idectial skit on the show 10 years ago.

It all blew up mainly because that USA guy got offended. Actually heard on ABC radio a socialogist explain it quite well

Goes something like this

"Times are changing and what was ok 20 years ago is not ok now, BUT its not racism, I must point that out. 20 years ago, racial skits were perfectly ok, and standard in Australia. No one got insulted. But you did insult some-one if you made sexual statements at them, that was taboo.

Progress to today, where the Internet is king, globalisation, and we are immersed in the USA culture. The American on hey hey its Saturday wasn't talking to Australian when he make his comments, he was talking to the USA, as he knows this skit will go global, and didn't want to be appart of it for fear back home in the USA.

In 2009, real racism is a distant past for young people, Nazi Germany, World War II, The KKK, White Australia policy, - all those thing are a memory for many, and as such, peoples attitudes, now being swayed by the USA, makes racism anything that insults another race. On the other hand, with the liberal sexual attitude of todays people, sexual insults are common place and no longer insultung.

Is it right or wrong, its neither, its just changing times. I have no doubt in another 20 years, we see the attitudes change again"


I found his logic hard to argue against.

Changing times, and attitudes

Thank god I am an old fart and wont change

Craftbrewer

 

[brettprevans]

dont you love how the skit is being international condemed, bu when a comedian gets up and does a ventriloquist act with a 'terrorist' puppet is funny and USA crowds lap it up and its ok.

oh btw. linky for anyone thats interested.

i also love the knobs out there who confuse race and religion. anywhoo back to playing with water profiles in promash

 

[Steve]

No-one complains about the continuous repeats of the Benny Hill show when he and his sidekicks used to blacken their faces and sing and dance. Strange hey?

Cheers
Steve

P.S. Looking forward to seeing what my new plasma TV is like.

 

[bhummel]

I'm a bit shocked at how many people are even willing to purchase hops from China. Putting aside the idea concerning supporting your own countries ecomony and purchasing locally produced products, my biggest concern would be what China has sprayed on the hops as they grew them. China has been linked to the use of illegal/banned pesticides and cases of overuse of pesticides on produce. Its a free world and all and everyone can use what they want for there beer, but like I said I'm just surprised at how many are willing to jump on board.


http://food-haccp.blogspot.com/2009/05/ban...arcinogens.html

"There are many cases of banned pesticides or carcinogens found in foods.
Greenpeace exposed in 2006 in China that 25% of surveyed supermarkets agricultural products contained banned pesticides. Over 70% of tomatoes that tested were found to have the banned pesticide Lindane, and almost 40% of the samples had a mix of three or more types of pesticides.Fruits were also tested in this investigation. Tangerines, strawberries and Kyofung grapes samples were found contaminated by banned pesticides, including the highly toxic Methamidophos. These fruits can also be found in Hong Kong market.[2] Greenpeace says there exists no comprehensive monitoring on fruit produce in the Hong Kong as of 2006.
In India, soft drinks were found contaminated with high levels of pesticides and insecticides, including lindane, DDT, malathion and chlorpyrifos.[3]
Even Quality Assurance International, a USDA certified organization, in July 2008 QAI had mistakenly certified as organic powdered ginger produced in China, which tests showed was contaminated with the banned pesticide Aldicarb. [4]
News of Formaldehyde, a carcinogen was found in Vietnamese national dish, Pho, broke in 2007 Vietnam food scare. Vegetables and fruits were also found to have banned pesticides. "Health agencies have known that Vietnamese soy sauce, the country's second most popular sauce after fish sauce, has been chock full of cancer agents since at least 2001," thundered the Thanh Nien daily. "Why didn't anyone tell us?"[5] The carcinogen in Asian sauces is 3-MCPD and its metabolite 1,3-DCP, which has been an ongoing problem before 2000 affecting multiple continents.
2005 Indonesia food scare, carcinogenic formaldehyde was added as a preservative to noodles, tofu, salted fish, and meatballs.
2008 Chinese milk scandal.
"

 

[Polar Beer]

I'm a bit shocked....etc

Byron mate. There is a bloody great big thread called "Chinese Hops? What Next" for these kind of comments.

A heap of us are watching this thread for meaningful info.

 

[townsville]

From the Bulk Buy Thread

NOT MY PERSONAL COMMENTS
I'm a bit shocked at how many people are even willing to purchase hops from China. Putting aside the idea concerning supporting your own countries ecomony and purchasing locally produced products, my biggest concern would be what China has sprayed on the hops as they grew them. China has been linked to the use of illegal/banned pesticides and cases of overuse of pesticides on produce. Its a free world and all and everyone can use what they want for there beer, but like I said I'm just surprised at how many are willing to jump on board.


http://food-haccp.blogspot.com/2009/05/ban...arcinogens.html

"There are many cases of banned pesticides or carcinogens found in foods.
Greenpeace exposed in 2006 in China that 25% of surveyed supermarkets agricultural products contained banned pesticides. Over 70% of tomatoes that tested were found to have the banned pesticide Lindane, and almost 40% of the samples had a mix of three or more types of pesticides.Fruits were also tested in this investigation. Tangerines, strawberries and Kyofung grapes samples were found contaminated by banned pesticides, including the highly toxic Methamidophos. These fruits can also be found in Hong Kong market.[2] Greenpeace says there exists no comprehensive monitoring on fruit produce in the Hong Kong as of 2006.
In India, soft drinks were found contaminated with high levels of pesticides and insecticides, including lindane, DDT, malathion and chlorpyrifos.[3]
Even Quality Assurance International, a USDA certified organization, in July 2008 QAI had mistakenly certified as organic powdered ginger produced in China, which tests showed was contaminated with the banned pesticide Aldicarb. [4]
News of Formaldehyde, a carcinogen was found in Vietnamese national dish, Pho, broke in 2007 Vietnam food scare. Vegetables and fruits were also found to have banned pesticides. "Health agencies have known that Vietnamese soy sauce, the country's second most popular sauce after fish sauce, has been chock full of cancer agents since at least 2001," thundered the Thanh Nien daily. "Why didn't anyone tell us?"[5] The carcinogen in Asian sauces is 3-MCPD and its metabolite 1,3-DCP, which has been an ongoing problem before 2000 affecting multiple continents.
2005 Indonesia food scare, carcinogenic formaldehyde was added as a preservative to noodles, tofu, salted fish, and meatballs.
2008 Chinese milk scandal.

 

[Sammus]

Lol I hope this hasn't all spawned from my troll in post 16. Was just stirring the pot and it looks like I turned around for a minute and its boiled over

 

[townsville]

I agree, BUT will quickly answer this, AND keep it very short

China has come a long LONG way since that report. Export hops actually go thru a Chinese Export Certification where they check the hops that they meet export standards and International standards. They are exported arround the world, and I would think that if other countries are letting them pass, they are as good as any other countries hops for purity.

Please keep this thread to the hop order

Craftbrewer

 

[jonocarroll]

It all blew up mainly because that USA guy got offended.

People just love to find something and make it controversial. Over-the-top comedy in Australia is stone dead. The problem is, this wasn't over-the-top satire. It was, as you say, a repeat performance of an act performed years ago.

I saw a wonderful historical doco on American music not too long ago, and I was interested in the history. While I'm sure a lot of people see the black and cry racism, I wonder how many of them know how it was used? There's a complex history of black performers, white performers in blackface imitating black performers, then black performers in blackface imitating the white performers imitating the black performers. It's got it's fair share of self-parody already. It's responsible for most of the traditional African-American music around (not this gangsta hip-hop *****) and is strongly linked to the origins of the blues.

It was through blackface performers, white and black, that the richness and exuberance of African-American music, humor, and dance first reached mainstream, white audiences in the U.S. and abroad. It was through blackface minstrelsy that African American performers first entered the mainstream of American show business. Black performers used blackface performance to satirize white behavior.

Yes, there was racism involved the entire way through - blacks weren't allowed to go to see the shows, only to perform. Many of the performers were still slaves. It's certainly not all sunshine and lollipops.

The question is - did the performers use blackface because;

1. they were trying to incite hatrid towards a social group?
2. they were trying to make light of the hardships of a social group?
3. they were trying to recreate the self-parody that the makeup was historically used for?

or the somewhat more likely option

4. they wanted to look black, they were parodying people who are black, they weren't considering the history or social implications of the makeup, and they underestimated the desire for over-reaction in the public thesedays?

How many people use the phrase 'I got gipped?' without considering the historical link to gypsies?

Pfft. PC bloody overkill.

 

[real_beer]

Well guys it wasn't racist, as it was a copy of the same idectial skit on the show 10 years ago.

It all blew up mainly because that USA guy got offended.


Craftbrewer

Totally ridiculous and inaccurate skit, five doctors and none of them noticed their front man was supposed to be white!!!!

 

[townsville]

One of the funniest things I ever saw was a bunch of really black aborigines on a concert night at a mission years ago.

They painted themselves WHITE and acted out like the boy bands of the 90's. It was funny as hell, and NO_ONE even raised an eyebrow if it was inappropriate to do so

Craftbrewer

 

[townsville]

Totally ridiculous and inaccurate skit, five doctors and none of them noticed their front man was supposed to be white!!!!

STOP IT !!!!!!! I cant keep falling to the floor laughing about this. You'll cause me an injury

 

[bum]

Was the Hey Hey skit funny?