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mike_hillyer

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Must confess a compulsion for sampling real ale in the bottle. I've found the following have translated well to the bottle:

Fullers: London Pride
Wynchwood: Fiddler's Elbow
Youngs: Special London Ale
Greene King: Strong Suffolk Ale
Badger: Champion - with elderflower

Others such as Fuller's ESB are too sharp and many others I have supped are not the same in the bottle. BUT STILL VERY GOOD :)

I also believe that a Bitter is a cask conditioned English Pale Ale. English Pale Ale is bottled conditioned Bitter.

I haven't supped any Timothy Taylor's collection. Apparently Madonna likes them.

Comments?
 
FYI, London Pride, Fiddlers Elbow and Strong Suffolk Ale are all filtered, pasturised and artificially carbonated, not bottle conditioned.

I'm unsure about the Champion, but Special London Ale is bottle conditioned.
 
Champion isn't bottle conditioned either...

As Kook pointed out KIR, pasturised & artifically carbonated beer is NOT real ale.

Try & find yourself some Ruddles County, though pasturised IMO it still knocks spots off most of those you listed :)

Cheers Ross
 
Also Fullers 1845 Celebration Strong Ale is a top drop and won the Camra Champion Bottle Conditioned beer medal 98-99, and is bottle conditioned at 6.3%.

Cheers
Andrew
 
special london ale is a lovely beer. it hasn't exactly "translated" to the bottle though - it's a specially bottled beer. when it's fresh it's nice and dry and hoppy and fruity. most beergeeks don't give it much credit but i've always loved it.

the staleness, crapness and expense of most british ales you can get here is one of the main reasons why i brew lots of english ales!
 
special london ale is a lovely beer. it hasn't exactly "translated" to the bottle though - it's a specially bottled beer. when it's fresh it's nice and dry and hoppy and fruity. most beergeeks don't give it much credit but i've always loved it.

the staleness, crapness and expense of most british ales you can get here is one of the main reasons why i brew lots of english ales!
To be honest, quite a lot of them [UK bottled beers] aren't too hot at home - especially the output from some of the Micros. Most British breweries are specialists in cask beers, and the bottled beers represent a bit of a sideline - rarely making much money, just creating a bit more exposure. Things have improved - at one time more than half the UK bottle conditioned beers being produced were crap, to be honest. There's still a lot of junk out there, and an awful lot of mediocre beer in bottles. (I speak as someone who ran the UK bottle-conditioned beer bar at GBBF the last year I was there.)

The best of English beer is cask, and for that you have to go there. (Or brew it yourself)
 
Is Timothy Taylor Landlord in bottle filtered and pasturised?
 
Is Timothy Taylor Landlord in bottle filtered and pasturised?
Yes. The number of old family and regional breweries that produce a bottle conditioned beer is very small, and even then it's usually only one or two products with most of their flagship brands being filtered and pasturised, or at least sterile-filtered.
 
Well I'm glad I posted that discussion. Thanks for the tips.

I will stick with London Special Ale (good taste and alcohol content also) A good excuse to buy even more Coopers. Explains the sharpness, I've found Master Brew quality has dropped but then again so has the price. I haven't had London Pride for a couple of years. I did assume bottle conditioned quality for the price. Lucky I average a bottle a fortnight at $6. Assumption the mother of all f ups. The brews listed are faked reasonably well. I will actually look at the German and Belguim Ales and see which of theirs are real. Any suggestions on that?
 
KIR

If you keep your eyes open you may come across some Worthington White Shield. It's bottle conditioned and very nice indeed. :beerbang:

Warren -
 
Thanks for advice, please keep it rolling in.

Has anyone found bottles of Directors? I used drink a few pints at a pub in High Barnet mid to late 90's. I always had a head on it, tasted fresh. Great drop in winter.
 
Thanks for advice, please keep it rolling in.

Has anyone found bottles of Directors? I used drink a few pints at a pub in High Barnet mid to late 90's. I always had a head on it, tasted fresh. Great drop in winter.
There was a period when Courage Directors was produced as bottle-conditioned beer, but (AFAIK) it was short lived.
 
To be honest, quite a lot of them [UK bottled beers] aren't too hot at home - especially the output from some of the Micros. Most British breweries are specialists in cask beers, and the bottled beers represent a bit of a sideline - rarely making much money, just creating a bit more exposure. Things have improved - at one time more than half the UK bottle conditioned beers being produced were crap, to be honest. There's still a lot of junk out there, and an awful lot of mediocre beer in bottles.

So, so true. It's the one thing that really dissapoints me over here.

The CAMRA bottled ale campagain has helped a little, but even so theres so many crap, bland bottles out there. Many breweries even have different recipes for their bottled beers, sometimes drastically different tasting beers.

A lot of the micro's don't bottle their own beer either, they'll either brew it via contract or send it off in tanks to be bottled by a bigger brewery.

All that said, when you find a high quality british bottled ale, it is often something really special. Iceni Men of Norfolk is a good example of that.
 
KIR

If you keep your eyes open you may come across some Worthington White Shield. It's bottle conditioned and very nice indeed. :beerbang:

Warren -

I would love to find a decent recipe for this beer

http://www.worthingtonswhiteshield.com/heritage.html


Pumpy :)

worthington.jpg
 
I would love to find a decent recipe for this beer

http://www.worthingtonswhiteshield.com/heritage.html
Pumpy :)

here you go:
85% pale malt
5% crystal
10% invert sugar

kettle hops Northdown & Challenger
late hops: Northdown

OG 1051, 40 IBU
presumably you would want the Bass yeast (1028) although i remember reading somewhere that one of the english yeasts from whitelabs is worthington white shield?
 
here you go:
85% pale malt
5% crystal
10% invert sugar

kettle hops Northdown & Challenger
late hops: Northdown

OG 1051, 40 IBU
presumably you would want the Bass yeast (1028) although i remember reading somewhere that one of the english yeasts from whitelabs is worthington white shield?
Thanks for that, I have two reasonably fresh bottles in the fridge to culture from so will have to give it a crack. But then I will have to buy some more as a control to taste it against!
 
here you go:
85% pale malt
5% crystal
10% invert sugar

kettle hops Northdown & Challenger
late hops: Northdown

OG 1051, 40 IBU
presumably you would want the Bass yeast (1028) although i remember reading somewhere that one of the english yeasts from whitelabs is worthington white shield?


Thanks Neomate for that , I have some of those hops , if I remember the yeast is quite distintive in the beer

pumpy :)
 
sorry to be confusing - bass yeast is the worthington yeast is 1028 is WLP013. i think.
 

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