A question that came to mind after visiting a few microbreweries in the Brisbane/ Gold Coast area is how are microbreweries that were formerly brew your own businesses or using brew your own type equipment and ingredients perceived by the craft beer market. To put my question into context : they have a lower capital investment i.e. they don't buy costly brew houses but use brew your own type kettles, they don't invest in stainless steel fermenters and cooling systems but rather use coldrooms. They also don't use malt grain to make their beers, or at least for the majority of their grain bill but use malt extracts. Obviously this is done for economic benefit - lower repayment on capital equipment and they don't have the hassle of disposing of spent grain and able to push through the same or more volume of beer through their systems in the same time it takes to mash, lauter, sparge, boil, chill using the all grain method on brew house. Can this business model be considered to be a brewery producing craft beer - when others have invested significant capital and incur additional costs to produce beer where the majority of the processing takes place on premises. I don't think there is anything wrong with using extracts for home brewing but when you are a manufacturer in this industry you should be making it from scratch. An artisanal baker would not use a cake mix to bake a cake so why should a microbrewery. What are your thoughts on this?