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With the topic of water and brewing coming up from time to time it would be nice to have an airlocked central post of all the water around the country that you can go to.

I'll start up with Canberra Water Breakdown

Canberra water comes from two primary water treatment plants. One uses chlorine gas to chlorinate, the other uses chlorine gas and UV during chlorination. There is no chloramines used in Canberra water (thank god).


The water treatment plant has a production capacity of 250 megalitres (million litres) a day. The treatment process involves the following steps:

coagulation and flocculation
optional dissolved air flotation
dissolved air flotation and filtration or direct filtration
disinfection by chlorination
ultraviolet disinfection
pH adjustment and stabilisation with lime and carbon dioxide
fluoridation by sodium silico fluoride.



Test Typical value Unit

pH between 7.5 and 8.5 pH units
Alkalinity (total) 35.8 mg/L as CaCO3
Colour (true) 2.38 Pt-Co units
Turbidity 0.47 NTU
Fluoride 0.91 mg/L
Total Hardness 39.6 mg/L as CaCO3
Iron 0.033 mg/L
Manganese 0.010 mg/L
Aluminium 0.033 mg/L
Copper 0.018 mg/L
Lead 0.0004 mg/L
Sulfate: None given by ActewAGL, only that the detection level is 1mg/L


LINK to Canberra Water Quality Report


Cheers,
Brewer Pete
 
Fantastic idea for a thread.

For those in sydney who get their water from the prospect treatment plant details are below

Test Typical value Unit

pH between 7.7-8
Alkalinity (total) 35-46 mg/L as CaCO3
Colour (true) 1-2 Pt-Co units
Turbidity 0.1-0.2 NTU
Fluoride 1.02-1.12 mg/L
Total Hardness 33-46 mg/L as CaCO3
Iron 0.005-0.023 mg/L
Manganese <0.001-0.004 mg/L
Aluminium <0.010-0.012 mg/L
Copper 0.007-0.046 mg/L
Lead not detected.

These figures are from the 2007 typical analysis from Sydney water. anyone got updated values?
 
I wrote to our local Council, and received the following water details from them, in September 2007.

Port Macquarie

PH: 7.0

Calcium: 11.3
Magnesium: 3.9
Sodium: 12.0
Sulfate: 3.6
Chloride: 18.0
Bicarbonate: 44.7
 
From the point of view of brewing you would also really need to know Magnesium and Sulphates as well, re 'Burtonisation' and whether the water has permanent or temporary hardness.
 
Bundaberg South 15/12/2009


Calcium
: 12.0 ppm
Sulfate: 2.0 ppm
Magnesium: 4.0 ppm
Chloride: 80.0 ppm
Sodium: 48.0 ppm
Bicarbonate: 44.0 ppm
PH: 7.73 @ 21c
 
This isn't a fantastic idea for a thread, it is a fantastic idea for a Wiki article.
 
Great stuff.

I am very keen to know the chlorine/chloramine situation in Sydney if anyone has any info.
 
Sunshine Coast 2006:
Gannawarra St, results detailed below


pH 7.50
Free Chlorine 0.12mg/L
Dissolved Oxygen 5.30mg/L
Turbidity 0.22NTU
TDS 84.8mg/L
Dissolved Sulphide 0.01mg/L
Hardness 60mg/L
Chloride 26mg/L
Iron 0.005mg/L
Manganese 0.003mg/L
Aluminium 0.002mg/L
Zinc 0.02mg/L
Copper 0.02mg/L
Chromium 0.02mg/L
Nickel 0.02mg/l
Calcium 15.0 mg/L
Sodium 10.8 mg/L
Magnesium 3.7 mg/L
Bicarbonate 39.0 mg/L
Sulphate 15.0 mg\L


Sunshine Coast 2006:
In the Buddina region, the closest monitoring site is at a park along Nicklin Way between Koorin Drive and Lutana St. The results for this site are as follows:-


pH 7.70
Residual Chlorine 0.30 mg/L
Dissolved Oxygen 4.80 mg/L
Turbidity 0.45 NTU
TDS 82 mg/L
Dissolved Sulfide <0.01 mg/L
Hardness 62 mg/L as CaCO3
Chloride 23 mg/L
Sulphate 15 mg/L
Iron 0.003 mg/L
Manganese 0.002 mg/L
Aluminium 0.014 mg/L
Zinc 0.01 mg/L
Copper 0.004mg/L
Chromium <0.01 mg/L
Nickel <0.01 mg/L
Sodium 10.57 mg/L

Gympie 2009:
Jones Hill Water Treatment Plant


Conductivity (uS/cm at25C) 298
pH at 20"C 7.34
Total Hardness* (as CaCO3) 61
Temporary Hardness* (mg/L CaCO3) 48
Alkalinity (mg/L 48
Residual Alkalinity (meq/L) 0.0
Silica (mg/L) 16
Total Dissolved lons* (mg/L) 178
Total Dissolved Solids* (mg/L) 164
True Colour <1
Turbidity (NTU) 4
pH Sat.* (calc. for CaCO3) 8.8
Saturation lndex -1.5
Mole Ratio* 3.0
Sodium Absorpt. Ratio* 1.7
Figure of Merit Ratio* 0.9

CATIONS
Sodium Na+ 31
Potassium K+ 1.7
Calcium Ca++ 9.3
Magnesium Mg++ 9.1
Hydrogen* H+ 0.0

ANIONS
Bicarbonate* HCO3 58
Carb0nate* CO3 0.1
Hydroxide* OH 0.0
Chloride Cl 44
Fluoride <0.1
Nitrate NO3 1.2
Sulphate SO4 24

OTHER DISSOLVED ELEMENTS
Iron Fe 0.01
Manganese Mn <0.01
Zinc Zn <0.01
Aluminium Al <0.05
Boron B 0.02
Copper Cu 0.03
 
a mate of mine was involved in the testing of water which about by the break-out of crypto and giardia some years ago in Sydney. his company since went global - I'll ask him to see if he knows where to get this info...

MAUOMBO
 
a mate of mine was involved in the testing of water which about by the break-out of crypto and giardia some years ago in Sydney. his company since went global - I'll ask him to see if he knows where to get this info...

MAUOMBO

Try your local water supplier :)

Here is the min and max data for Mt Yokine (2007), which supplies a wide range of the Perth metro area:

pH 7.1 8.1
Conductivity (mS/m) 60 105
Colour (HU) <1 3
Turbidity (NTU) <0.1 0.5
Sodium 80 140
Potassium 4 8
Calcium 20 35
Magnesium 8 10
Hardness as CaCO3 90 130
Chloride 140 185
Sulphate 20 55
Alkalinity as CaCO3 60 120
Nitrate + Nitrite as N 0.1 0.8
Iron 0.01 0.2
Manganese <0.002 0.012
Aluminium <0.008 0.08
Silica as SiO2 10 20
Total Filterable solids (by sum) 420 550
 
And here is Bibra Lakes (Perth) supply, please note the large 'range'.
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Melbourne - Richmond Locality:
City West Water Quality Report 2007-2008.


Alkalinity (as CaCO3): 13 ppm
Hardness (as CaCO3): 16 ppm
Calcium: 4.1 ppm
Sulfate: 2.2 ppm
Magnesium: 1.4 ppm
Chloride: 7.0 ppm
Sodium: 5.4 ppm
PH: 7.0
 
Anyone got Gold Coast's since the de-sal plant started pumping ?
 
This is a Link to Adelaide Water Report from 06. Covers all supply areas seperately.
Seems almost impossible to get more recent one.

Nige
Seems your link is slightly broken. Try this one; Link (missed out the 'http://' which won't work properly).

Also the data isn't '06;

Data for the Period 1/7/2002 - 30/6/2007
And cheers, good work. Interesting read. :icon_cheers:

EDIT: Better yet, how about the 2008 data? Still a 5 year average, but '03-'08 this time. Found in the FAQ.

Data for the Period 1/7/2003 - 30/6/2008
Don't expect another before 30/6/2009 I suppose. I've left the 2006 file link there as there are some interesting changes.
 
Seems your link is slightly broken. Try this one; Link (missed out the 'http://' which won't work properly).

Also the data isn't '06;


And cheers, good work. Interesting read. :icon_cheers:

EDIT: Better yet, how about the 2008 data? Still a 5 year average, but '03-'08 this time. Found in the FAQ.


Don't expect another before 30/6/2009 I suppose. I've left the 2006 file link there as there are some interesting changes.


In the interest of accuracy, as I am too late to edit my original post, I have deleted it and defer to QB's most excellent reply.

Cheers
Nige
 
Gladstone, Qld


Calcium: 16.0 ppm
Sulfate: 23.0 ppm
Magnesium: 8.8 ppm
Chloride: 39.0 ppm
Sodium: 32.0 ppm
Bicarbonate: 91.0 ppm
PH: 7.8

Cheers,
Jake
 
Anyone got up to date info for prospect/north-west Sydney? I've plugged average values from the Sydney water website into Beersmith, but can't seem to find bicarbonate anywhere.
 
Fantastic idea for a thread.

For those in sydney who get their water from the prospect treatment plant details are below

<snip>

These figures are from the 2007 typical analysis from Sydney water. anyone got updated values?

Anyone got up to date info for prospect/north-west Sydney? I've plugged average values from the Sydney water website into Beersmith, but can't seem to find bicarbonate anywhere.
Stuff it - I'm slightly bored, so here's the full 2007 data for just about all of Sydney.

And with just a little searching;

Test results for 12 months from 1 January 2008 to 31 December 2008 taken from customers tap
The 2008 data. Have fun.
 
This isn't a fantastic idea for a thread, it is a fantastic idea for a Wiki article.

Considering my subtle hint seems to have been ignored, I'll repeat and clarify:


Put this in the damned AHB Wiki! :)
 

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