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chimera

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Back from one phenomenal trip through Europe. Only 5 weeks but that's plenty of time to tour the sights, sample some beer and blow the budget sky high. Didn't help that while I was away the hot water tank in the roof above the laundry split its seams - in case I had anything left in the bank.

What can I say about Euro beer.. well, just what I came across..

Started in London where beer is cheap. Forget about the crappy exchange rate, a pint of lager is 2.20, premium ales maybe 3, and if that's got you worried then go to the supermarket where 10 pound will get you a slab of 500ml cans.
Found fullers, wandsworth, timmy taylor few others on tap, as well as numerous real ales. mmm, warm flat beer!
Fosters is worth mentioning - it's quite popular and I can see why. The UK brew-under-license stuff is way better than any local 'aussie style draught beers'

Over in Ireland tried all the local beers although they are suffering from even worse commercialisation than Australia. Guinness tastes better in Dublin, and naturally had to do the Storehouse tour. If in Dublin I highly recommend looking up a brewpub called the porterhouse in Temple Bar - pints are a bit more expensive but its all about the beer right?

Don't drink beer in France, it's costly and nothing special, but a 90 minute train from Paris you're in Brussels - which really is beer mecca. I could wax on about Belgium for paragraphs but i'm trying to keep it short & sweet. Pubs have beer menus as thick as an encyclopedia, delerium tremens on tap, cheap cheap beer, 1 euro in a supermarket will get you a westmalle tripel and you can buy leffe in 5L kegs. Order a pint of hoegaarden or a kwak and the glass they serve it in will leave a smile on your face for days!

And finally there's Italy - easily the cheapest place to be an alco i've ever come across. They sell 1.5L plastic bottles of wine, known affectionately as hobo soft drinks for 1 euro. 5 euro gets you a 70cl of cheap scotch.
Forget the beer, the local lagers are drinkable and the imports are predominantly dutch & german swill but for a handful of euro you can buy some excellent wines.

Anyway, reading through that I feel like i should go to a meeting or something, but I promise I did other non-drink related stuff during the day! Had a truly great trip and to anybody who is procrastinating about going to Europe for whatever reason - just do it otherwise you WILL regret it

Cheers
 
Sounds like an awesome trip!!

Brings back memories of my time living in the UK.

I will say one thing though. You might say don't drink beer in Paris, rather than France.

French regions, particularly those near belgium, have some wonderful farmhouse ales.

French lagers on the whole are pretty uninspiring though as you probably discovered...



Hard to imagine that in Europe, well the UK at least, Belgium has a historical reputation as being 'boring' isn't it!

Beer, chips and chocolate? What better basis for a culture do you need :D
 
Don't drink beer in France, it's costly and nothing special

And finally there's Italy - Forget the beer

I've got to disagree with those two points.

France has some awesome small breweries in the north east, producing brilliant bier de garde. You do have to know where to go to find it, but there is just as much of a beer scene going on there as there is in Australia!

Italy is undergoing a similar transformation at the moment. There are some really cool micros cropping up like Baladin and Panil. Once again though, you can't just walk in off the street to any bar and expect to find great beer though.

It's the same as Australia, if you want to find the micros and regional breweries product you'll need to do your research and seek it out.
 
And finally there's Italy - easily the cheapest place to be an alco i've ever come across. They sell 1.5L plastic bottles of wine, known affectionately as hobo soft drinks for 1 euro. 5 euro gets you a 70cl of cheap scotch.

Would have to disagree here. When I was in Spain, Barcelona specifically, we found a small supermarket that was selling 700ml bottles of Vodka for 3.60! We picked up a case of 12 of those which took us the next 6 weeks to get through. Nasty stuff.

But yeah, in general, Europe is a cheap place to get a drink methinks.
 
It's the same as Australia, if you want to find the micros and regional breweries product you'll need to do your research and seek it out.

to be sure - there's exceptions to every rule. Had heard about the beers in the north of France too but didnt have the time to pursue it.

Good luck to Italy, if it's anything like our local beer 'renaissance' then really it means that micros that make any commercial success get bought out and become one with the borg.
 
Great thread Chimera, sounds like we've covered similar European ground.

I agree on the price of beer in the UK - it really is cheap. Especially so if you're earning pounds. At even 3 quid per pint of proper ale, it's a steal.

The most expensive beer I drank over there was on Champs d' Elysees (asking for trouble!!) at a calculated $24 Australian for 400ML!! Sadly it was a lifeless Kroenenbourg. Thank God I was spending pounds and single at the time...

Belgium, as you say is a beer-lovers' dream. Never mind the food, the beer list is far more important. I love a society that invests such passion in beer.

The Porterhouse in Temple Bar was also the sight of many a nasty night!!
 
The most expensive beer I drank over there was on Champs d' Elysees (asking for trouble!!) at a calculated $24 Australian for 400ML!! Sadly it was a lifeless Kroenenbourg. Thank God I was spending pounds and single at the time...

Must be France. My mate bought a Carlsberg Elephant beer at a Cafe outside of Notre Dame cathedral, and it cost him 15!
 
3 quid for a pint!!! cheap???? :blink: shit - it was only a quid a pint when I left pommie land...and that was for proper ale.
Cheers
Steve
 
I actually found France pretty good for beer too. As Kook said you've just got to have your beer radar on. Some real beer bargains to be had from the supermarch... Huge Belgian, German and British beer portfolios at very cheap prices. Best part was buying 750ml bottles of Jenlain to drink back at the apartment for around 2 Euros a pop. :beer:

Warren -
 
3 quid for a pint!!! cheap???? :blink: shit - it was only a quid a pint when I left pommie land...and that was for proper ale.
Cheers
Steve

I guess it's all personal - but I almost hurl every time I get $2 change from a tenner for a pint in Australia. Since wages are no higher here than the UK, we're getting seriously ripped. In the UK, earning more per hour, I was pretty happy to get a pound change from a tenner, after buying three pints.
 
ah yes, I will re-validate that statement about France.
Staying in southern France and shopping at the supermarket the beer selection is indeed rather good and prices arent too high. Once you get to Paris you will find it is a dominant wine culture, if you want a beer in a bar you'll get kronenburg draught or 1664 if lucky, and it'll be about 7 euro - which is about the same price as a 500ml pitcher of house wine.

Off beer slightly - cheap french wine is very hit/miss. I'm told the 'good stuff' is very good indeed, but coming from Australia where wine is generally good, the french quaffer wine is very poor by comparison to Aussie quaffers.

Of course French would no doubt disagree.
 
Honeymooning in Europe last year, my wife and I made a point of getting a beer in McDonald's wherever we could, just because you can. Kronenbourg 1664 in Paris, Nastro Azzurro in Venice and Pilsner Urquell in Prague. Amusing to see fellow patrons enjoying theirs sucked through straws as they shoved fistfuls of fries down their continental craws. Yum.
 
Honeymooning in Europe last year, my wife and I made a point of getting a beer in McDonald's wherever we could, just because you can. Kronenbourg 1664 in Paris, Nastro Azzurro in Venice and Pilsner Urquell in Prague.

What options would you prefer in Oz, Aviary? Tooheys New in Sydney? West End in Adelaide? :lol:
 
I'll never forget one day whilst on a day off in San Sebastian. We went to the local supermarket and purchased 1 carton of shitty beer, 2 bottles of extremely shitty red wine, two big bottles of Coke to mix with the wine and make kalimotxo, 2 pizzas, 2 packets of chips and a dip of some description, all for the very affordable price of 11 Euro. Now that's a cheap party. Being three of us it wasn't even 4 Euro ($8 Aus) each. Cleaned it all up then went and drank Sangria till I couldn't speak properly at the local backpacker haunt. Good times, good times
 

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