Helles
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Plan on brewing something like this in the next couple of weeks
Heres the plan
An American Pale Ale is What i was after but i have yeast to make a Californian Common as well
I want to make a American pale Ale And a Californian Common beer out of the same Grist and boil hops
Dry hop and hop back can and will be different(APA cascade)(Cal Common Nth Brewer im not sure yet if it needs it)
Can also split the batch at the end of boil( for flavour and aroma)
But cannot split the boil or mash
The plan so far is for 80 Lt
Will be splitting Batch in 2 for fermentation
40 Lt APA
40Lt Californian Common beer or something similar
IBU 45.2 ( on the edge of destruction but i use hop socks so it should be a bit lower)
(IBU and EBC just scrape into style Guide lines according to Beer Smith)
EBC 26.9 ( bordering on an American Amber Ale)
OG 1048
Mashed @67'C in 2.8 lt/Water
56.25% 9 KG Briess Ale
15.62% 2.5 KG JW Light Munich
10.94% 1.5 KG Victory
6.25% 1KG JW Amber
4.68% .750KG TF Crystal 60L
3.13% .5 KG CaraPils
3.13% .5 KG JW Dark Crystal
60 g Cascade 60min 15.2 ibu
30g Cascade 50 min 7.1 ibu
30g Cascade 40min 8.7 ibu
30g Nth Brewer 40min 5.8 ibu
30 g Nth Brewer 20 min 4.1 Ibu
30g Nth Brewer 10 min 2.3 ibu
30g Nth Brewer 5 min 1.9 ibu
30g Nth Brewer 0 min
APA hop back 60 g Cascade
Cal Common I dont think i will use the hop back( pretty sure)
APA will be dry hopped with 60 g Cascade
Californian Commom dry hopped with 30 g Nth Brewer
APA Wyeast 1272 Slurry
Cal Common Wyeast 2112 Fresh stepped Starter
I know i will not nail both styles at once
But i think i could come close
Cascade being a favorite hop of of mine and many others
Nth Brewer being a favorite hop of my extract days
I should end up with beers i will enjoy no matter what (help me nail the two)
Pretty sure no one has tried this before in the same mash and boil
But ideas and opinion on the different styles and how to mix them would be great
I know about the All Nth Brewer for Cal Common to be to style
And the big CCC's for APA
But i think the last Addition at 40 min of Cascade will only change the perception of bitterness not the flavour???
(or just enough to miss style with Cal Common)
The experienced might disagree
The Grist should be pretty good (ideas welcome )to blend the two
The hops is where i was after some opinions
I know not many people have thought about this
But your ideas and opinions on the different styles would be great( has anyone got a great Cal Common)
Everyone has done an APA ,Cal Common some have done
How and if can i blend the two together i'm not sure
But i think i will come out with at least an APA ( hop dependent The Nth brewer Cascade still interchangable )
Any help would be oarsome
Ive come to a dead end with ideas for this one (these two)
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Heres the plan
An American Pale Ale is What i was after but i have yeast to make a Californian Common as well
I want to make a American pale Ale And a Californian Common beer out of the same Grist and boil hops
Dry hop and hop back can and will be different(APA cascade)(Cal Common Nth Brewer im not sure yet if it needs it)
Can also split the batch at the end of boil( for flavour and aroma)
But cannot split the boil or mash
The plan so far is for 80 Lt
Will be splitting Batch in 2 for fermentation
40 Lt APA
40Lt Californian Common beer or something similar
IBU 45.2 ( on the edge of destruction but i use hop socks so it should be a bit lower)
(IBU and EBC just scrape into style Guide lines according to Beer Smith)
EBC 26.9 ( bordering on an American Amber Ale)
OG 1048
Mashed @67'C in 2.8 lt/Water
56.25% 9 KG Briess Ale
15.62% 2.5 KG JW Light Munich
10.94% 1.5 KG Victory
6.25% 1KG JW Amber
4.68% .750KG TF Crystal 60L
3.13% .5 KG CaraPils
3.13% .5 KG JW Dark Crystal
60 g Cascade 60min 15.2 ibu
30g Cascade 50 min 7.1 ibu
30g Cascade 40min 8.7 ibu
30g Nth Brewer 40min 5.8 ibu
30 g Nth Brewer 20 min 4.1 Ibu
30g Nth Brewer 10 min 2.3 ibu
30g Nth Brewer 5 min 1.9 ibu
30g Nth Brewer 0 min
APA hop back 60 g Cascade
Cal Common I dont think i will use the hop back( pretty sure)
APA will be dry hopped with 60 g Cascade
Californian Commom dry hopped with 30 g Nth Brewer
APA Wyeast 1272 Slurry
Cal Common Wyeast 2112 Fresh stepped Starter
I know i will not nail both styles at once
But i think i could come close
Cascade being a favorite hop of of mine and many others
Nth Brewer being a favorite hop of my extract days
I should end up with beers i will enjoy no matter what (help me nail the two)
Pretty sure no one has tried this before in the same mash and boil
But ideas and opinion on the different styles and how to mix them would be great
I know about the All Nth Brewer for Cal Common to be to style
And the big CCC's for APA
But i think the last Addition at 40 min of Cascade will only change the perception of bitterness not the flavour???
(or just enough to miss style with Cal Common)
The experienced might disagree
The Grist should be pretty good (ideas welcome )to blend the two
The hops is where i was after some opinions
I know not many people have thought about this
But your ideas and opinions on the different styles would be great( has anyone got a great Cal Common)
Everyone has done an APA ,Cal Common some have done
How and if can i blend the two together i'm not sure
But i think i will come out with at least an APA ( hop dependent The Nth brewer Cascade still interchangable )
Any help would be oarsome
Ive come to a dead end with ideas for this one (these two)
c