Aldi DSan

[manson81]

Hey guys, is it still the white label Aldi napisan which you use for cleaning your gear? My search found an old thread from 2008 bit just wanted to check before I get the wrong one...

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Yep. As long as you get the basic non scented one.

Its good stuff

 

[manson81]

Sweet, cheers. Headed there now. Just remember last time there were two, neither actually specified non scented

 

[QldKev]

Hope so, cause I've been using the Di-san for years

 

[HardEight]

I have been using this lately. Is that the same sorta stuff? (it's $4 or so when on special)

http://shop.coles.com.au/online/national/aware-laundry-soaker-powder-sensitive

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Aldi san is higher in sodium percarbonate

 

[manson81]

The one I ended up with is Disan Nappy. White label. There was Disan Plus, blue label and Disan Oxy, purple label.

 

[scottfrompubs]

I have used both the white label Disan, and the oxy disan purple label. Both work great. Just get the cheapest one.

 

[Moad]

You can buy pure sodium perc relatively cheap in bulk...

It's all I use and never had an infection, other than when I left the lid of a fermenter!

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

You can.....but not as easy as walking into Aldi.

 

[sp0rk]

Also can't do it when there are no local suppliers
and shipping is a bitch

 

[big78sam]

You can buy pure sodium perc relatively cheap in bulk...

It's all I use and never had an infection, other than when I left the lid of a fermenter!

Is pure sod perc really a sanitiser though or have you just been lucky? I'd be reluctant about suggesting that to a new brewer...

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Its excellent. Main ingrediant of napi-san.

I would suggest it to all new brewers

 

[QldKev]

Think about the name of the product we are discussing DiSAN.. Diaper Sanitiser. It even states anti bacterial on the packet. But I do still give everything a quick spray with starsan to be sure.
I've never tried the Oxy or Plus ones, use the basic unscented one for the price and convenience I don't think it can be beat.

 

[scon]

Yes, the disan sanitises, but then you unsanitise when rinsing it off right - I clean/soak with Sodium Perc, rinse it off and then use a spray on no-rinse after.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

It is a no rinse sanitizer and clasified as food safe.

But I have made the mistake of using scented stuff and not rinsing...... Onky did it once. Left an odd taste that stuck to my tungue

 

[manson81]

Oh really? I thought it was more just used for cleaning and had to be rinsed off and then still use another no rinse sanitiser...

That's what I've always done in the past with sodium perc bought from the brew shop anyway.

 

[big78sam]

Oh really? I thought it was more just used for cleaning and had to be rinsed off and then still use another no rinse sanitiser...

That's what I've always done in the past with sodium perc bought from the brew shop anyway.

Me too.

In understand PBW is mainly Sodium percarbonate and sodium metasilicate. Will this do the same sanitising job as disan?

I'll still be doing a quick star san but that gives me a bit more comfirt that everything is getting a double whack.

EDIT: I seem to recall the 5 star chemicals guy say that PBW is not a sanitiser on a brew strong podcast...

 

[manson81]

I'm just about out of starsan and was going to go for a drive out to brewcraft on saturday to get more. Should I not bother and just mix up Disan in my spray bottle?

 

[beerkravin]

xSAN and Sodium perc leave a slippery film on plastic that you need to wash off.

Best Practice would be to use the Sodium Perc based stuff as a cleaner\soaker, wash that off and sanitise with a proper sanitiser.

 

[shaunous]

I've always used PBW for cleaning only, never thought it could be used for sanitizing.

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Sodium Percarbonate breaks down into Hydrogen Peroxide. Peroxide is a well known sanitizer.

 

[joshF]

Screw Aldi, last time i walked in there i only 'needed' two things, some DiSan and a Sirloin roast, so decided against grabbing one of their trolleys.

Needless to say, $80 bucks later and two arms full of random **** i was really regretting not grabbing that trolley

Anyway, i use the purple disan stuff as it had a slightly higher % of sodium percarb but really not that much more than the white label stuff. Both do a great job and like others have said, just grab whatevers cheaper

 

[Moad]

Fair enough if you dont have a LHBS accessible. I was told that sodium perc sanitises as well, I do rinse with water afterwards and as I said I haven't had an infection.

I don't think it is luck, in a year and around 20 batches surely I'm not that lucky!

I pay about $20 for 5KG I think, from MHB.

I'll confirm next time if noone else chimes in

 

[Ducatiboy stu]

Napi-San = Sodium Perc. Just has some more inert ingrediants to help it perform better

 

[Moad]

Napi-San = ~30% sodium perc.

I would say pro rata it would work out cheaper to get 100% if accessible.

ie - I would need to use 30% of what you use to achieve the same results... maybe

 

[Yob]

PBW - Requires Rinsing
Napisan - Requires Rinsing, it's at best 30% Perc.. whats the rest?

Pure Perc, breaks down to (as stu has said) Hydrogen peroxide and soda ash... if you feel your fingers after being in a perc solution, they will feel a bit slimy, Starsan neutralizes this... all my FV's, after a perc cleaning/soak, get rinsed, and starsan before use.

:icon_cheers:

 

[Moad]

Interesting you use starsan in addition Yob. I think I'll stick with a rinse until I get an infection and then will finish off with a starsan step!

 

[Yob]

why wait to lose one?

 

[Phoney]

Starsan is so bloody cheap, why wouldnt you add it into your rinse water?
I bought a 500ml bottle of it damn near 4 years ago and it's still half full.