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#141 Bonj

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 07:30 AM

Can I just say this is the first time I've been on television?

Edited by bradsbrew, 17 December 2013 - 08:04 AM.
MODERATION- This type of post is a deliberate attempt to hijack a thread, the member will receive a warning via PM.


#142 punkin

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 07:46 AM

It's not "I'd better not post, I'll get banned".

It's if you go off topic, it'll be hidden or moved.

If you post porn links you'll be warned.

If you abuse other members, you will be warned.

If you then question the decision you'll be warned.

If you keep doing it without care for the guidelines, you may be banned.

Alls the mods are doing is attempting to do so fairly and within existing guidelines. And copping flak for doing something about it.

AHB has lost members and copped criticism for lack of mods. Now we do mod, people complain.

And we don't get paid. We do it because we believe in AHB being a fantastic brewing resource with a great sense of community. Abuse of other members is never an ideal way in which communities should operate.

 

 

The moderation policy for AHB is as follows:

1. Moderators may at their discretion move, consolidate or split any content that they believe is in the incorrect sub forum or is duplicated.
2. Moderators may delete content which they believes contravenes the site rules. Deleted content can be restored, and this may later be overturned by an administrator.
3. Any actions which a moderator believes to seriously contravene the site rules may result in a moderator temporarily removing an individuals ability to post content, or temporarily removing an individuals site access.
4. Moderators decisions are not final. Any action by a moderator can be escalated to the site administrators for further review.
5. Site administrators decisions are final.

 

 

 

Brad, I suspect that the comments of "this forum has gone downhill since" are quite possibly referring to the current membership and not the new ownership, although there will inevitably be some of that too.

 

I second the transparency on deleted posts, no matter how trivial. Consider the possibility of a post being deleted and the poster unaware of it, reposts wondering where the post went, why didn't it work? I'm drunk did I forget to hit "post"? etc.

 

I suspect that I was on the receiving end of a deleted post just tonight :ph34r: but I can't be certain of it because there was no indication of its deletion whatsoever.

 

 

This is very easily rectified by deleting/editing the offensive content of a post rather than the post. Replacing it with the words "Mod edit; post is edited for blah blah".

 

Stops the torn apart threads that no longer makes sense, allows everyone (who has read the post or made it) to know exactly where the line was crossed and how and keeps the forum tidy.

 

 

I don't believe people have been crying for tougher moderation or even more moderation. The glaring lack since i have been here and i have found that people want is more consistent and transparent moderation.

 

 

By stopping the purposeful derailments, the threadshitting in retail threads and having transparent moderation by editing rather than deleting content consistently and evenly without favour to your own sensibilties you will have a board where people are happy to participate.

 

Having to ban someone means that your moderation policy has failed, it's not the tool you seem to be relying on. There are very few 1%'s out there, that's why they are called 1%érs. Banning should be a stopgap measure while the underlying problem is sorted, it's usually a result of laziness from the mod team and underlying site problems in my experience. I have been a member of sites that wave the big stick every time they don't like someones way of expressing themselves and i have also participated (on both sides of the fence) on sites that have run for years and years and have banned much less than a handful of people in that time. 



#143 Lord Raja Goomba I

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 07:58 AM

 

By stopping the purposeful derailments, the threadshitting in retail threads and having transparent moderation by editing rather than deleting content consistently and evenly without favour to your own sensibilties you will have a board where people are happy to participate.

 

 

Mate, you've been chronic for the above, and you're still here.  So your point is moot at best.

 

The few bans handed out are for the 1%ers.

 

You need to ask yourself, where are the older members who really had the knowledge to contribute?

 

Dr S, Dr K, butters (old butters), etc.  The lack of moderation in the past is why we now have a bottom-heavy distribution of brewing knowledge and a bunch of idiots who seem intent to waste everyone's time and abuse those that question them.

 

If you look at the way the mods have dealt with, as a rule, being questioned vs some of the awful behaviour of members in these topics - you'd have to realise that the mods are quite clearly not abusing power, but simply trying to monitor awful behaviour that members, either through inebriation or immaturity lack the self-discipline to monitor themselves.



#144 bradsbrew

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 08:00 AM

Thread is now locked.
That's to everyone that has offered comments. We will now discuss items of concern. We will have a follow up on this. Please be patient.

Edited by bradsbrew, 17 December 2013 - 08:01 AM.
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#145 AndrewQLD

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 08:01 AM

So the reason a member gets banned is not because they repeatably break the rules or make a total fool of themselves or are abusive and threatening to other members?

It's because the Moderators are lazy?



#146 bradsbrew

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Posted 28 December 2013 - 06:51 AM

Hi Everyone, thanks again for all the constructive feedback.

The Guidelines and Expectations are up. They live next to the site rules under "Welcome".

Thanks