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#1 hopcycle

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 05:01 PM

I love this beer! :icon_drool2:

Clean bitterness, light quenching malt and hop flavour and aroma galore. Has anyone cloned this with good results?

It seems like it has perhaps 50% wheat malt and I know it has Galaxy added towards the end of the boil.

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 06:26 PM

Yes I love it too.

All i know is that they use galaxy hops (dry hopped as well) wheat malt, raw wheat and pale malt.

Here is my 1st attempt. Have in the keg at the moment, it awesome, i love it. However, I would change it a bit. I would up the flameout additions to 30g and the dry hops to perhaps 30 or even 40g.
Mine came out a little darker than the actual stone and wood, so perhaps I would use some more raw wheat? Or I was thinking about subbing half the ale malt for pilsner malt.

Good luck

BeerSmith Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Stone & Wood Draught Ale Clone
Brewer: Matt Cawley
Asst Brewer:
Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 28.00 L
Boil Size: 35.67 L
Estimated OG: 1.053 SG
Estimated Color: 9.6 EBC
Estimated IBU: 32.9 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
5.50 kg Barrett Burston Ale Malt (6.0 EBC) Grain 80.88 %
0.65 kg Wheat Malt (3.0 EBC) Grain 9.56 %
0.65 kg Wheat, Torrified (3.3 EBC) Grain 9.56 %
20.00 gm Galaxy-Flowers [14.20 %] (Dry Hop 5 days)Hops -
25.00 gm Galaxy 2009 crop [13.40 %] (40 min) Hops 27.2 IBU
20.00 gm Galaxy 2009 crop [13.40 %] (10 min) Hops 5.7 IBU
20.00 gm Galaxy 2009 crop [13.40 %] (0 min) (AromaHops -
0.50 tsp Kopperfloc (Boil 10.0 min) Misc
1 Pkgs American Ale (Wyeast Labs #1056) Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 6.80 kg
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Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
75 min Mash In Add 17.75 L of water at 71.2 C 65.0 C


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Posted 13 August 2010 - 06:28 PM

I love this one too, I made this recipe & it turned out pretty bloody good I reckon

http://www.aussiehom...d...&recipe=877

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 06:52 PM

You guys are talking the APA style Stone n Wood? I had a session on it at the Beach in Byron last week and loved it, the Galaxy stood out upfront and "drink some more" it said. I then went downstairs and bought their 3 beers for takeaways, none of which I could fault. The dark ale was bock like, the lager a nice clean drop, but that ale on tap :icon_drool2:

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 07:07 PM

You guys are talking the APA style Stone n Wood? I had a session on it at the Beach in Byron last week and loved it, the Galaxy stood out upfront and "drink some more" it said. I then went downstairs and bought their 3 beers for takeaways, none of which I could fault. The dark ale was bock like, the lager a nice clean drop, but that ale on tap :icon_drool2:


Just up the road from me, nice beer, very sessionable. Also at the Rails and the Northern.

The dark ale must have been the Stone Beer???

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 07:17 PM

That was the one Matt, Stone Beer. They claim to replicate the wood fire and heated stones for the boil, if they do or dont it was a great beer worthy of travelling the 3000k`s to get into it.


Just up the road from me, nice beer, very sessionable. Also at the Rails and the Northern.

The dark ale must have been the Stone Beer???



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Posted 13 August 2010 - 07:27 PM

Ive visited the brewery before for a tour with Brad Rogers. Also went to Melbourne for the Beer and Brewer expo, popped in to see the boys from the brewery and asked about the stone beer. Brad showed me some photos of them heating up the stones that they use. think the pics are on the website?? They say they got the stones from Fiji if I remember correctly. The wort caramelises on the stones producing a caramelised effect, and then they add the stones to the fermenter. The caramel characters really come out in the Stone Beer, well balanced though and a shame its only a seasonal release.

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 07:41 PM

Thanks for the info Matt. I asked a few questions at the bar re the brewery and beers and got a sort of "dunno" answer. Probably the best 2 Aussie craftbeers I have drunk in a few years was the APA Draught and the stone beer. Great pic of it there on your avatar! It was a bit exxxy though.

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 08:33 AM

Matt C, I would think that the IBU of this beer is about 33-35 as you've indicated. When I drank it, it had a very clean bitterness that was like a steely backbone.

I made a wheat beer that had 25% pils malt, 25% unmalted wheat and 50% malted wheat and to me the malt profile was similar.

I doubt that they use that much wheat but it does taste pretty wheaty/quenching.

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 09:04 AM

Hopcycle, not entirely sure of their % 's in their malt bill, but I think that up past 50 % wheat your heading well into hefeweizen territory. I would maybe up the wheat and raw (i used torrified) wheat to 15 % each and see how that goes. I actually gelatined in the keg, wouldnt do that next time, because after a week, it had lost that cloudy appearance. Try and pick a low floc yeast as well. I did a side by side test from a bottle of the commercial version, and mine lacked a bit of flavour and aroma, hence my suggestions for the increased flame out hops and dry hops.

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Edited by MattC, 14 August 2010 - 09:07 AM.


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Posted 14 August 2010 - 09:26 AM

I might try 50% wheat (50:50 malted: raw) & 50% pils malt and see what happens. let me know how it goes. it would be great to nail it.
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Posted 14 August 2010 - 09:52 AM

I might try 50% wheat (50:50 malted: raw) & 50% pils malt and see what happens. let me know how it goes. it would be great to nail it.


You let ME know how it goes ;)

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 10:19 AM

20% wheat, 80% Pale, must get your pH right to get proper TG. Galaxy hops a plenty!

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 12:27 PM

...thanks for the comments guys, i spend every day brewing,hopping, kegging, packing and generally caring for these beers..glad you like 'em...

...as for the recipes, i'm under an obvious obligation not to give out commercially sensitive info...so, i wont apart from saying...keep guessing guys...one of the great joys of brewing is the voyage of discovery... :D...

...Scott...

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 12:33 PM

...thanks for the comments guys, i spend every day brewing,hopping, kegging, packing and generally caring for these beers..glad you like 'em...

...as for the recipes, i'm under an obvious obligation not to give out commercially sensitive info...so, i wont apart from saying...keep guessing guys...one of the great joys of brewing is the voyage of discovery... :D...

...Scott...


No Worries, it always compliments to the chef when people try to replicate your creations. Will keep trying and when I think Im close, ill pop in and ask for your opinion eh?

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 12:35 PM

Maybe a competition is in order.... :drinks:

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 12:38 PM

No Worries, it always compliments to the chef when people try to replicate your creations. Will keep trying and when I think Im close, ill pop in and ask for your opinion eh?

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...please do mate, and bring a bottle or two of your work with you... :icon_cheers:

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 06:48 PM

Just having a pint of this now, i'd suggest adding some acidulated malt or adjusting your mash water to achieve the same results these guys are producing also be careful with galaxy it is quite a high alpha hop and the bitterness can get away from you, i'd suggest using it all quite late in the boil.

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 07:50 PM

...thanks for the comments guys, i spend every day brewing,hopping, kegging, packing and generally caring for these beers..glad you like 'em...

...as for the recipes, i'm under an obvious obligation not to give out commercially sensitive info...so, i wont apart from saying...keep guessing guys...one of the great joys of brewing is the voyage of discovery... :D...

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Nice beer Scott, tried it at the Platform Bar, if I was to have a go at it I would use S-04 at 20C in the hope of getting close to the yeast profile ;)

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Posted 14 August 2010 - 08:37 PM

Nice beer Scott, tried it at the Platform Bar, if I was to have a go at it I would use S-04 at 20C in the hope of getting close to the yeast profile ;)

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It is a nice cloudy beer, maybe due to the late hopping but after tasting via the keg and it being cloudy I was thinking more "what is this" yeast, it is not a high floc yeast, the cloudiness on a high floc yeast like 04 would settle, i am thinking a low-med floc, a good amount of wheat and ahigh amount of late hopping, as randyrob said galaxy maybe all late.

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Edited by haysie, 14 August 2010 - 08:38 PM.